Each week on the Dauntless Grace Exchange podcast, Deedra Mager and Megan Hall continue their journey towards becoming wholly integrated. As they grow and learn, they bring tools like the Enneagram and Internal Family Systems therapy model to encourage you in your mental and emotional health. Ultimately, it’s all about connection: connecting to others, connecting to God, and connecting back to yourself.
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Healthcare is riddled with challenges: navigating complex social dynamics, competing economic interests and managing near impossible expectations. On a daily basis, this leads to stressful, even traumatic situations for those providing care. How do healthcare professionals cope with the emotional impact? Join Mike Larson and Aaron Metcalf as they explore their stories in this podcast, No Really, I'm Fine!
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Deedra (enneagram 1) and Megan (enneagram 4) talk about how they engage in conversations during the election season, and what things hold them back and what spur them forward.
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Send us a text As we come to the midway point of season 1, we’re honored to welcome Dr. Rishi Rattan. In this episode, Rishi reflects on what empathy means to him and the sacred moments he experiences by honoring the humanity of his patients, even in the face of death. He opens up about the surprising moment he decided to become a surgeon, when he …
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Lea Cassidy, RN "Stewarding Trauma"
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Send us a text Thanks so much to Lea Cassidy for sitting down with us for a spirited conversation about what brought her into this important work and what she is learning as she continues to engage the challenge of being a night shift ICU nurse. Lea reflects on her journey with ADHD in this episode and how she harnesses this as a super power to wor…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Send us a text Oh friends! Ken "Jesus Ken!" King brings us a heartfelt conversation about his work as a respiratory therapist. Ken offers insight into his patient interactions and into how he strives to bring some normalcy into a very abnormal setting. Ken is all things air - which it turns out is important to living - and shares his journey into t…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Send us a text It's the "Smithsters"!!!!!!!! Besties Alysa Smith and Genelle Smith (no relation, what?) join us on the podcast today for an episode that brings a lot of laughter, joy, and heartfelt care. Genelle is an ICU nurse, and Alysa is an emergency department and together they are an unstoppable force of wisdom and humor. These two have conta…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Jasper, 911 Dispatch, Three Dimensional Coping
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Send us a text "911 What's your emergency? " Hopefully these are words you have never had to hear, but if you have, you'll be glad if Jasper Bawcom is on the other line, waiting and ready to dispatch services to you! Jasper brings deep reflection into his work, as well as powerful stories from his unique and high paced work. Jasper is insightful, c…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Adam Haight, LCSW Palliative Care, "Soul Purpose"
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Send us a Text Message. This week we have the great opportunity to speak with Adam Haight, who is a Palliative Care social worker. Adam brings a lot of depth and reflection in this conversation as he explores what brought him to this unique work and what continues to offer him meaning as he engages people in very difficult conversations on a daily …
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Chelan Metcalf, RN "Violence in the Room"
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Send us a text This week we welcome the delightful and insightful Chelan Metcalf! Chelan is a nurse in on an acute med-surge floor and did her RN training in the thick of covid. She brings laughter and tears in this episode as she explores her unique (and deeply moving) call to this vocation and also explores an event of being assaulted while at wo…
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This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Chelsea Neubauer, RN "Pillow Talk and Boundary Setting"
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Send us a Text Message. Neurotrauma ICU nurse, educator, chair of the practice council, "CAUTI" educator, cat momma, and all around delight, Chelsea Neubauer joins us for a conversation. Chelsea shares her draw towards nursing and her unique journey into her many roles and motivations for doing this challenging work. As you will hear, it has not al…
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This summer, The Dauntless Grace Exchange is going to feature stories from people that you may not always encounter. The goal of sharing stories from those outside of the majority is to gain perspective, grow more curious, and stir compassion for people different from us. We hope you stick around all summer to listen!…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode we "Sing (David) Singer's" praises as he explores coping strategies he has learned as a hospital social worker over his 19-year career. David brings wisdom as a seasoned practitioner working in the emergency department of a Level 1 trauma center and as a practicing therapist while not working in the hospital.…
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Send us a text We are thrilled to introduce you to Cardio Vascular Intensive Care Unit RN Dani Magarrell! Dani brings years of experience and wisdom into this episode in which she reflects on her journey learning to offer, “Heart Forward Care” to patients and their families. Dani engages us in stories about her own formation, struggles, and healing…
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Deedra and Megan check in with their own parts and get vulnerable about the tension they each feel. Why do our parts war with each other? Can we hold the both/and within ourselves? How can we take care of the parts of us that feel weary or angry? (Also, Megan shares why she's still writing about Taylor Swift on social media, and why she's not stopp…
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It's time for part 2! Deedra and Megan jump back into the defense mechanisms of each enneagram type, but this time they correlate them to the protectors and exiles that might be clustered around that defense mechanism. If you missed part 1, you can find that on Episode 168. They also referenced the podcast with Enneagram 8 Hilary Mize: Episode 36.…
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Deedra and Megan jump back into the defense mechanisms of each enneagram type, but this time they correlate them to the protectors and exiles that might be clustered around that defense mechanism. And, because they are who they are, they couldn't help but get vulnerable about their own protectors and some things they've experienced since learning a…
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IFS therapist, author, and podcast host of The One Inside is back! Tammy Sollenberger, dear friend of the podcast, has joined us to discuss therapy models she has used in her practice, such as CBT and DBT, and what changed when she learned about Internal Family Systems (IFS). Plus, for our Patreon subscribers, Tammy goes vulnerable and raw in a fol…
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Therapist Malissa Melton-Otunba is back for a part two! In this episode, she briefs Megan on what Concept Therapy is and they discuss how it relates to Internal Family Systems and other therapy models. For more information on Malissa, listen to episode 165! Links: Concept Therapy Malissa's most recent article…
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Therapist Malissa Melton-Otunba joins the podcast this week to discuss why even therapists need to be able to do their own inner work! For Malissa, the enneagram was a life-changing tool that helped her understand herself, especially as a mom and woman. Malissa is a midwest girl at heart transplanted in Dallas/Fort Worth for the past 20 years. She …
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Dr. Alison Cook returns to the podcast for the third time! In it, she discusses her newest book, I Shouldn't Feel This Way, available for pre-order now! Alison walks us through the three practices for untangling emotions: naming, framing, and braving. Plus, watch the bonus interview where she answers the question, "What's been left unsaid?" and tru…
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Author and Hulu documentary subject Anna LeBaron joins Deedra and Megan to share about her life post-cult. Anna's escape at 13 led her on a lifelong healing journey from the trauma she endured, and she opens up about the hardships and blessings of walking it. Also, don't miss the bonus interview in the DG Community where she answers the question, "…
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Author and therapist Aundi Kolber joins Deedra and Megan today for a beautiful and compassionate conversation about healing from trauma. Aundi's new book, Strong Like Water Guided Journey, is available for pre-order and releases March 26! You can connect further with Aundi on Instagram, and don't forget that our DG Community members can see a bonus…
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Enneagram Eight Jo Saxton joins the conversation to discuss the importance of vulnerability in leadership. Listen as she drops some amazing wisdom about what it looks like to lead from wholeness and integrity. Plus, for our Patreon subscribers, don't miss the bonus interview where Jo answers the question, "What's been left unsaid?" Jo Saxton is a s…
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Straight from Dallas, Texas, Deedra and Megan drop their exciting news: Dauntless Grace has a new community for you to join! Head to the Community tab on the website (dauntlessgrace.org) or go straight to the Patreon page to join now!
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Deedra and Megan finish up the conversation from last week on the focus of attention for types Five through Nine, along with some extra stories about Fours (per usual) and how the focuses relate to the passions of the enneagram types.
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Megan and Deedra decide to take it back to some enneagram basics: the focus of attention for each type. If you're new to the enneagram or still trying to determine which number you are, understanding the focus of attention will go a long way in identifying or confirming yours!
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Yes, we are two days late to drop a Galentine's Day episode. BUT, I think you'll find the episode is worth it. We spend a lot of time laughing, answering enneagram questions for each other, and we even dive into some enneagram and relationship dynamics you don't want to miss!
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For the first time (somehow), Megan and Deedra go through the defense mechanisms for all nine enneagram types. What are they? What does it mean? How do those relate to Internal Family Systems protectors? How do they self-sabotage? And most importantly, now that we know, where do we go from here? Plus: the Truity blog we used to discuss these.…
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It's episode 155 (not 154, as Megan mistakenly said), and we thought it was time to give you guys the rundown of where we've been and where we're going. Dauntless Grace has always been focused on connecting you to a meaningful story, and in this episode, we break down what that means. It's all about connecting to yourself, connecting to others, and…
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This week, Megan's Facebook post about Taylor Swift went viral, and it brought out a lot of parts in others and in herself. Deedra and Megan use that to discuss: Noticing what parts of ourselves are present Getting distance to let our Self drive the bus Using our words with integrity and kindness How social media can be a connector or a divider…
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Megan and Deedra combine their two heroes, Taylor Swift and Dr. Brené Brown, into one epic conversation about hope, overwhelm, vulnerability, and connection.
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Besties of the podcast, Meg and Kami, join today's episode to talk about their own words of the year: what they chose for 2023 and how it manifested, and what they're focusing on moving into 2024. Plus, it's always lots of laughs when these four are together!
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The annual words of the year episode is back! Deedra and Megan discuss how their 2023 words finished, and they share their new words for 2024. What is your word for 2024? Share it with us!
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The both/and we experienced in 2021 stays true today: the world is full of joy and sorrow. The Christmas season especially magnifies it all: it's a season of awe, wonder, hope, and expectations, but it also holds the tension of exposing sadness, grief, longing, and loneliness. Whatever your circumstances are this season, there is an Emmanuel, God w…
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After a whirlwind tour of Washington DC, New York City, and Boston, Megan and Deedra are back to share how God brings the right people along our paths. Whether it's meeting new friends in person for the first time or ministering to strangers in restaurants, we are wired for connection with others. Plus, they share exciting news about a former speci…
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Whether you have your head down to get everything done in December, or whether your head is buried under the covers until December is over, Jesus is waiting to encounter you. Megan and Deedra each share a recent personal story of how Jesus encountered them in a way that brought a new perspective and more healing. PLUS, you don't want to miss the pi…
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Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, so Deedra and Megan share how they've been giving thanks in 2023. Gratitude isn't about ignoring the painful parts of life; it's about finding beauty even in the midst of the mundane or sorrowful parts. Each of them shares about their personal eucharisteo list and how it's helped them find joy in new places.…
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As we enter into the holiday season, gathering (with family, friends, colleagues, or crowds) is expected. But what if we could turn gatherings into spaces of intention and connection? Deedra and Megan share some insights they recently heard from Priya Parker, author of The Art of Gathering, and they explain how they've been cultivating these in the…
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Megan and Deedra reminisce about the last three years of The Dauntless Grace Exchange--why it started, what they've learned, and where it's going! They each share some of their favorite episodes and guests, and they had big plans to link all the episodes they discuss in these show notes, but there are just too many! However, you can find all their …
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Megan's daughter Jorie joins Deedra and Megan to discuss the pandemic's impact on this generation's teens. Jorie, a young teen herself, tells her own journey through the pandemic during middle school, discovering she is an enneagram Nine, and what navigating relationships with emotional intelligence is like in high school. Jorie Hall is a 15-year-o…
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What is social emotional learning, and why is it so important? Deedra and Megan break down why they're so invested in this topic. Then they go through each enneagram number and point out natural strengths and weaknesses of each type in regards to social emotional learning.
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