Do I Stay Or Do I Go? Caregivers Under Stress; with the Co-Founders of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

It’s no secret that healthcare professionals and caregivers of all kinds are stretched beyond their limits. We can’t look to healthcare systems themselves to give us the care and attention we need, so where CAN we go for support (and answers)?

Don’t miss this week’s episode with guests Koshin Paley Ellison and Chodo Robert Campbell of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care.

In this episode we cover:

• Why it’s important to look beyond the identified patient to the invisible web of caregivers
• The realities of caregiver burnout and stress
• The one practice you can do even - and especially - when you have no time to care for yourself
• Do you stay or do you go? Making decisions for yourself inside this healthcare system catastrophe

We're re-releasing some of our favorite episodes from the first 3 seasons. This episode was originally recorded in 2022.

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About our guests:

Sensei Chodo Robert Campbell is co-founder of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. His passion lies in bereavement counseling and advocating for change in the way our healthcare institutions work with the dying. Find Chodo and the NYZC @newyorkzencenter on IG, and online at zencare.org

Sensei Koshin Paley Ellison is an author, Zen teacher, Jungian psychotherapist, and Certified Chaplaincy Educator. He is the author of Wholehearted: Slow Down, Help Out, Wake Up and the co-editor of Awake at the Bedside: Contemplative Teachings on Palliative and End of Life Care. Find him on IG @koshinpaleyellison

About Megan:

Psychotherapist Megan Devine is one of today’s leading experts on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. Get the best-selling book on grief in over a decade, It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, wherever you get books. Find Megan @refugeingrief

Additional resources:

If you work in healthcare, I very strongly recommend you check out New York Zen Center’s Contemplative Medicine Fellowship.

To hear one of my favorite passages of all time, read by Chodo Robert Campbell, check out the first video at this link.

All of the Zen Center’s offerings, from books to support groups to ongoing educational opportunities can be found at zencare.org.

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