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Interviews with fascinating people from a range of industries—from music and retail to journalism and technology—who are exploring their creative practices, inventing new ways of working, and helping shape a more inclusive world. In the 11th season of DB|BD, co-hosts Jessica Helfand and Ellen McGirt are observing equity by highlighting the “redesigners” — people who are addressing urgent problems by challenging big assumptions about how the world can and should work — and who it should work for.
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As an interior designer, do you struggle with balancing your passion for creativity with the practical demands and hopes of running a successful business? Whether starting a new venture or scaling an existing firm, the complexities can be overwhelming. Welcome to “Success by Design: Mastering the Business of Interior Design,” a podcast designed to bridge the gap between creativity and entrepreneurship. This masterclass is hosted by the dynamic Katie Decker-Erickson, a seasoned expert with ne ...
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The Business of Beautiful Spaces, Interior Design Podcast

Laura Thornton, Interior Designer

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Welcome to The Business of Beautiful Spaces, the podcast where interior design matters! As Interior Designers, we understand the power of creating beautiful and functional spaces that not only look good, but also enhance our daily lives. Join us on this journey as we explore the ins and outs of the interior design industry and dive into the business side of things. From one interior designer to another, we'll share our experiences, insights, and lessons learned as we strive to create spaces ...
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In these changing times, you know your business needs a fresh approach to its strategy. Dina Goebel shares 40 years of business design experiences and tips on how to future-proof your business for long-term success. She shares up-front experiences on what works, and doesn't work, rather than just dwelling on theories. Visit her website: diaryofabusinessdesigner.com to download resources and ask questions.
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In this episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design, the podcast offers advice on how to navigate difficult clients. One source, an article from Ad Middle East, presents practical strategies for diffusing tension and fostering positive relationships with challenging clients. The other source, a YouTube video, likely delves into the topic throu…
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In this episode of The Business of Beautiful Spaces, we dive into strategic planning for a profitable 2025. Laura shares essential steps for setting actionable business goals, including assessing expenses, determining project requirements, balancing consultations and larger projects, setting clear goals, and aligning marketing efforts to attract pr…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Welcome to one of our most anticipated conversations—the 2025 Color of the Year! Join color marketing experts from PPG, Sherwin-Williams, and Benjamin Moore as they reveal their picks, what inspired the selections, what they’re noticing with design trends in general, and what’s coming down the pike in the next couple of …
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In this episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design, listen to practical advice on scaling an interior design business. They explore strategies such as expanding service offerings, streamlining operations, and leveraging technology to increase efficiency. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of team building, knowledge sharing, and deve…
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In this episode, we dive into the advantages of having a dedicated design studio and how it can elevate your business. From projecting a more professional image and enhancing client trust, to showcasing your style and creativity in a real-world space, a studio offers unique benefits that go beyond what a home office can provide. We’ll explore how a…
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In this episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design, we dive into the secrets of getting your work featured in top design publications and high-traffic websites. From crafting a compelling narrative about your project to perfecting the photography and creating relationships with editors, we cover what it takes to make your work stand out. Brou…
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In this episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design, we demystify SEO specifically for interior designers looking to expand their online presence. This episode breaks down the essentials of search engine optimization—from choosing the right keywords to optimizing your website for better visibility in local searches. Brought to you by Ryan Shap…
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In this special Veterans Day episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design, a recent study conducted by researchers at Texas A&M University has examined how architectural design can improve the lives of veterans living with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). The study interviewed veterans with PTSD to understand how design elements like wind…
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Today, we’re talking about one of the most important yet often overlooked aspects of running a design business: contracts. I’m thrilled to have Erica Canas, Esq., a Florida licensed attorney and interior design enthusiast, join us for this important conversation. Erica is the founder of ID Law Shop, where she creates “best-practices” legal template…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Leaders in the interior design industry join me to discuss trends and predictions about the future—specifically 2025! You’ll hear from LuAnn Nigara, Rick Campos, and Dr. Jennifer Chukwujekwe. They’re sharing what 2024 was like for their businesses, what they’re evaluating as we wrap up the year, how they’re strategically…
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In this episode of The Art & Business of Interior Design we take a deep-dive into sophistication and wellness in luxury living. We explore the art of creating elevated, well-balanced spaces that blend luxury with holistic wellness. Join us as we dive into timeless design principles that bring beauty, tranquility, and functionality to luxury interio…
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Founder and CEO, Darla Powell, is an interior decorator herself and knows firsthand how to successfully market in this niche. After receiving countless requests from fellow designers for help with marketing their interior design firms, Darla saw a tremendous need for an agency well-versed and laser focused on marketing strategies and practices tail…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! ‘Tis the season for the Fall High Point Market of 2024! We know you’re here for the tips, tricks, trends, and everything we learn at market every time we go. And this time is no different—except we’re switching things up a bit! Di normally goes to market and gives us a recap on what’s trending in lighting, furniture, and…
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In this episode, let's take a deep-dive into using a professional photographer for interior design and how it offers significant benefits, elevating the presentation and appeal of each space. With an expert eye for composition, lighting, and detail, a professional photographer captures the true essence and quality of the design, highlighting its un…
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Douglas envisions Interior Designher as a community hub where designers can finally learn, share, rent or buy the business skills they should have learned in school. In addition to all sorts of free education resources - from people who know what they’re talking about - Doug is collaborating with a few of our “experts” to create a series of no-cost…
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With an eye for detail and a heart for storytelling and 19 years ​of experience, Paisley is a luxury interior designer known for ​blending cultural influences with timeless elegance. Her work spans from the Gold Coast of Australia to Oaxaca, ​Mexico, creating immersive spaces that evoke harmony and ​emotion. Paisley's global perspective and passion…
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Amber Rose Thomas is the visionary founder of "Launch with Amber," a bespoke service designed to elevate the effectiveness of Facebook Ads for coaches, experts, and course creators worldwide. Disappointed by the subpar results her clients experienced with traditional ad agencies, Amber, a Facebook™ Blueprint Certified Ads Manager and a CIM-accredit…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Creative burnout hits even the best of us. And Jennifer Bertrand (that’s right, of HGTV’s ‘Design Star’) is here to share her story with us from not-the-right-fit clients to sources of inspiration to how she’s been able to sustain her current level of creativity—Jennifer’s baring it all! Tune in, and don’t miss today’s C…
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Ashley is a passionate designer with two companies that create wonderful design outcomes: her interior design firm- AYI & Associates and her furniture company- Ashley Yeates. This designer and business owner wears many hats. But thanks to family and faith, this multitasking mom can stay grounded and continue to focus on her purpose. She is wanting …
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Brittny is the founder and creative director for Homesmith Design, delivering her signature modern minimalist style. An entrepreneur at heart, Brittny started Homesmith Design as a solo passion project and has quickly grown it into a successful design studio serving clients across the country, while preserving the personalized service and experienc…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Finances, in general, are a scary thing. Finances in your business, well, they can be even scarier. So how do you get over that? And what are the key skills and habits that business owners need in order to break through and reach that magical 7-figure number? Whether you run a 6-figure interior design firm and are wantin…
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Natalie Papier is an interior designer, art curator, and TV personality based in Charlotte, North Carolina. Natalie believes that meaningful design starts with art and that homes should be a reflection of the people who live in them, full of life, character, and warmth. She is a host of Magnolia Network’s Artfully Designed, now in its second season…
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In this episode we are talking to Suzanne Robson from Suzanne Robson Design located in Austrilia about the challenges involved in starting a second career in the interior design space along with running our own design businesses. Website: https://www.suzannerobsondesign.com.au/ Instagram: @suzannerobsondesign Profit Academy: https://theprofitacadem…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Even if you are a company of 1, it’s critical to think about the company culture you want to build! Which includes way more than just values and beliefs you post to your About page. But maybe you have questions like… how do you design a company culture? And how do you actually put it into action? Welcome Josh Dykstra bac…
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Ovetta Sampson is the Director of User Experience Machine Learning at Google. In December 2023, Business Insider named Ovetta to their AI 100, a list of the 100 most influential people working in artificial intelligence. Her inclusion on that list is a refreshing addition. Ovetta approaches her work with generative AI and machine learning as an act…
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Rebecca Hay is known for her authentic, all-inclusive approach and has spent much of her design career building relationships with other designers and entrepreneurs. She has built a successful, 7 figure interior design business by trial and error, podcasts, online courses, and books. Over the last decade she has grown from an insecure student to ha…
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In this episode of "Let's Talk About Using an Art Advisor to Enhance Interior Designs," Laura Thornton chats with Katharine Earnhardt from Mason Lane Art Advisory. Katharine shares her extensive experience and insights on how contemporary art can elevate interior spaces. She discusses the importance of selecting art that not only complements the de…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! For art to not remain an afterthought with interior and commercial designs, we must incorporate art into the conversation early. As designers, we have a unique ability to propel up-and-coming artists forward while also inspiring more clients to bring incredible pieces of art into their spaces. But art isn’t just an impor…
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Jorge Fontanez is the CEO of B Lab, a non-profit network that believes business can be a force for good. B Lab is best known for certifying B Corps, companies that meet high standards of social and environmental performance and accountability. To become a B Corp, companies need to be transparently addressing things like DEI, their own climate footp…
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Designers questions are answered on the last Monday of the month. Send in your questions to get answered. More information on The Profit Academy for Interior Designers can be found here: https://theprofitacademyforinteriordesigners.mykajabi.com/ Be sure to follow along on Instagram @thebusinessofbeautifulspaces + @thorntondesign to stay up to date …
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In this enlightening episode of our podcast, we delve into the crucial shift from retail to wholesale sourcing for interior designers and decorators. We explore why embracing wholesale can dramatically increase profit margins, ensure project exclusivity, and reduce competitive price shopping. The episode provides a wealth of information on where to…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Whether your design firm is new or not, it’s high time you learn how to make money and run a profitable business! No more free consultations. No more asking for permission to raise your rates. And certainly no more burying your head in the sand and not looking at your numbers. Award-winning designer and fellow podcaster,…
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Boutique PR agency founder committed to helping new and heritage brands achieve awareness through meaningful earned media placements. I launched ACPR in 2010 on a mission to do better PR. I now lead a small team who serves ~15 forward thinking, industry disrupting visionaries in the beauty, home, and lifestyle spaces. Website: https://allysonconkli…
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Tracy K. Smith is a Pulitzer prize winning poet, professor and librettist who served as the U.S. Poet Laureate from 2017-2019. She’s published five poetry collections, two librettos and one memoir-manifesto. She is also a Professor of English and African and African American Studies at Harvard. Her most recent Libretto for the opera The Righteous i…
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Jason Shader Smith is the founder and principal of The MLH Agency, an integrated marketing agency providing full-service branding, public relations, and event curation services. Passionate about working with mission-led startups, he founded MLH in 2023 to provide small and medium-sized businesses with fractional marketing support. Today, the agency…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! It’s Las Vegas Summer Market recap time! Our favorite visual merchandiser, Diana Rushton, is here to tell all. From textures and color palettes to furniture and lighting—we’re talking all about what’s trending. Is gray gone for good? How about Farmhouse style? And when it comes to choosing which market you go to for your…
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In this month’s interactive episode of "The Business of Beautiful Spaces," Laura Thornton dives into the most pressing questions from interior designers. From tackling complex project challenges to refining business strategies, Laura offers tailored advice and insights to elevate your design practice. Whether you’re struggling with client communica…
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In this episode of DB|BD Ellen McGirt and Jessica Helfand talk with two extraordinary women from two seemingly different corners of the design world: Dionna Dorsey and Olivia Peebles. We say “seemingly” because, while they occupy different design disciplines, they approach their work in similar ways. They are both multidisciplinary designers with t…
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Welcome to another episode of "Let's Talk Design," where we dive into the heart of interior design with the experts who shape our spaces. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce a very special guest, Sarah St. Amand. With over 25 years of experience, Sarah has masterfully assembled a dynamic and creative team at Sarah St. Amand Interior Design. They speci…
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Your design business will grow faster, go further, and be more successful when you embrace 2 things: collaborations and technology. You may not want to admit it, but AI is here to stay! It can even have a positive impact on your firm—if you let it. And that’s just one collaboration you can engage in! There’s also the opp…
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Danielle Hayden is the Co-Founder and CEO of Kickstart Accounting, Inc. a bookkeeping and accounting firm that is on a mission to coach six figure (+ beyond) female entrepreneurs so they can better understand their numbers through bookkeeping, financial analysis, and support so they can grow profitable, sustainable and enjoyable businesses. With ov…
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In this exciting episode of "The Business of Beautiful Spaces," we are thrilled to welcome Stacey Cohen from Stacey Cohen Design and Design Your Business with Stacey Cohen Workshops. Stacey brings her wealth of experience from running a successful design firm for over 15 years and shares her journey in developing a comprehensive step-by-step guide …
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Digital marketing strategies like SEO and social media are critical to the success of an interior design firm. But which platform should you be on, what metrics should you monitor, and how can you stand out in a crowded industry? As you’ll hear in today’s roundtable discussion with Aaron and Kari, people are longing for …
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Melissa is a former successful residential interior designer with over 25 years of industry experience. Since becoming a business coach 15 years ago, Melissa has worked with thousands of clients to dramatically boost their revenue and deliver more time for creative work through smart systems and proven processes. Most importantly, Melissa believes …
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Twenty years ago, Shamina Singh took what might seem like an unlikely leap from a decade-long career as a labor and political organizer into an executive position at one of the world’s biggest financial institutions. To Singh, this leap was a logical next step in her fight for equity and inclusion. She is now the co-founder and president of Masterc…
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This episode I am answering your questions! Last Monday of the month I will answer you questions, so send them in at info@thebusinessofbeautifulspaces.com The Profit Academy for Interior Designers: https://theprofitacademyforinteriordesigners.mykajabi.com/ Be sure to follow along on Instagram @thebusinessofbeautifulspaces + @thorntondesign to stay …
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Send Katie a Text Message!! Systems and processes are likely not the first things that come to mind when you think of scaling your design business growth. It’s much more appealing to dream of luxurious Tuesday mornings spent sipping coffee and being creative. But—those “boring” systems and processes are the real movers and shakers that get you more…
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Amber De La Garza is The Productivity Specialist! Amber has more than a decade of experience helping small business owners maximize profits, reduce stress, and make time for what matters most by improving their time management and elevating their productivity! Amber is a sought-after coach, trainer, speaker, writer, host of the Small Business Strai…
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The WNBA is both the moment and a movement. Approximately 400,000 fans attended WNBA games during the first month of the 2024 season, the highest first month attendance in 26 years. An average of 1.32 million viewers are tuning into each game. A historic rookie class that includes Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark are bringing new eyeballs to a game th…
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