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What’s up everyone, today I have the pleasure of sitting down with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder and CEO at Paramark. Summary: Pranav guides us out of the labyrinth of multi-touch attribution under the clear sky of incrementality and causality, urging marketers to focus on whether their efforts genuinely drive sales that wouldn’t happen otherwise. Earl…
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134: Jacqueline Freedman: Former leader at Grammarly and WeWork on how to become a trusted Martech advisor
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jacqueline Freedman, CEO and Founder at Monarch Advisory Partners. Summary: Jacqueline straps on her jetpack and invites us to soar through the martech skies, teaching us how to navigate the journey of becoming an independent martech advisor. From hands-on execution tasks strategy …
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133: Simon Heaton: Buffer’s Director of Growth Marketing on agile sprints, holdout testing and why a CRM or GA4 isn't in their tech stack
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Simon Heaton, Director of Growth Marketing at Buffer. Summary: Simon helps us explore Buffer's martech journey, highlighting their shift from traditional tools to a product-led approach driven by data and server-side analytics. We unpack their use of Customer.io for automation and …
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Ashleigh Johnson, Marketing Technologist at Microsoft. Summary: Ashleigh gives us a glimpse into the enterprise world of martech, and it might not be what you’re expecting. She emphasizes embracing the unexpected by seeking diverse roles and rotational programs. Building a personal…
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131: Siobhan Solberg: A guide to ethical marketing with data minimization and privacy strategies
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Siobhan Solberg, data privacy consultant and advisor. Summary: Siobhan takes on a behind-the-scenes look at the hidden mechanics of data privacy, ethical marketing practices, and effective data management. Marketers often overlook the importance of data privacy, but the increase in…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Sam Oh, VP of Marketing at Ahrefs. Summary: Sam takes us on a masterclass covering SEO fundamentals, evolving search behaviors, AI in content marketing, refreshing attribution thoughts and work-life balance strategies. He advises sticking to proven SEO fundamentals and understandin…
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What’s up folks. We’ve got a fun episode today. If you’re a regular listener, you’ve heard me mention an article that’s been living rent free in my head for a while now. Casey Winters, the former CPO at Eventbrite and an Instructor at Reforge, wrote an article titled “The Problems With Martech, and Why Martech is Actually for Engineers”. I’ve asked…
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128: Vish Gupta: Why simplification should come before automation if you want to avoid a Frankenstack
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Vish Gupta, Marketing Operations Manager at Databricks. Summary: This episode with Vish is jam packed with advice for marketers making their way through the martech galaxy. We touch on the pitfalls of Frankenstein stacks and the perks of self-service martech. Vish explains why mart…
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127: Carmen Simon: Using brain science to deviate from expected patterns and create memorable content
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Carmen Simon, Chief Science Officer at Corporate Visions and Brain Science Instructor at Stanford CS. Summary: Carmen takes us on an adventure exploring the wonders of brain science and how to sustain attention through contrast. We cover embodied cognition, deviating from expected …
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Michael Rumiantsau, Co-Founder and CEO at Narrative BI. Summary: This episode delves into the future of Business Intelligence, highlighting AI's role in democratizing data for marketers, automating insights with LLMs, and the importance of anomaly detection. Michael’s on a mission …
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Michele Nieberding, Director of Product Marketing at MetaRouter. Summary: Michele takes us on a broad journey across job hopping, learning technical martech products, preparing for the cookie apocalypse and diving deep into the world of server side data processions and tag manageme…
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124: Angela Cirrone: How to pick between similar martech solutions and master platform migrations
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Angela Cirrone, Senior Director, Marketing Operations at Optimizely. Summary: Angela brings a fresh perspective to marketing operations, a key theme throughout the conversation is curiosity and how it helps boost your confidence and be a key lego block to a successful career. What …
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Andrea Lechner-Becker, mostly retired CMO and Novelist. Summary: Andrea takes us on a wild ride filled with nuggets of wisdom, a few f-bombs and tons of laughs as she unpacks her deep understanding of marketing. Together, we explore how storytelling breathes life into content and w…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Emily Kramer, Co-Founder at MKT1. Summary: Emily explored the convergence of marketing, investment, and startup growth, delivering actionable insights for marketers, founders, and investors. When picking future unicorns, she attributed timing and luck but stressed the importance of…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Anthony Lamot 🐧, CEO and Co-Founder at DESelect. Summary: From early stage founder advice and keeping up with the galaxy of martech tools to email fatigue and AI’s convergence with neuroscience, this episode journeys through deep marketing space. Anthony gives us practical advice f…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Maja Voje, Founder of Growth Labs and the Author of GTM Strategist. Summary: This episode with Maja is a playbook for startup marketers, growth advisors, early stage founders and anyone curious about go-to-market strategies. We untangle the most popular questions about growing earl…
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119: Adam Greco: The Future of event-based web analytics and the overlapping landscape of data tools
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Adam Greco, Field CTO / Product Evangelist at Amplitude. Summary: Adam is a leading voice in digital analytics and he unpacks event-based analytics and how it’s transformed how marketers interact with data. Data tools are complicating the martech landscape with overlapping function…
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118: Mandy Thompson: Intent data pitfalls, diagram-first automation, and agency-style team management
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Mandy Thompson, CEO and Co-Founder of Digital Reach. Summary: Mandy shares powerful mindsets and practical frameworks for marketers aiming to future-proof their careers in the complex galaxy of martech mixed up with AI, data privacy, and genuine customer engagement. We cover the ar…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Dr. Julz James, Senior Marketing Ops Manager at 6sense and Adjunct Professor at St. Edwards University. Summary: Jul is a marketing ops leader and a martech Professor who's rewriting the rulebook on how to navigate the martech galaxy. She walks us through automation inception, like…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Kevin Hu (Hoo), Co-founder and CEO at Metaplane. Summary: Dr. Kevin Hu gives us a masterclass on everything data. Data analysis, data storytelling, data quality, data observability and data anomaly detection. We unpack the power of inquisitive data analysis and a hypothesis-driven …
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115: Amrita Mathur: ClickUp’s VP of Marketing on Optimizing for velocity of learning and balancing analytics with intuition
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Amrita Mathur, VP of Marketing at ClickUp. Summary: Building a brand from zero is all about diving deep into what makes your audience tick and tailoring your messages to hit just right. Amrita digs into this, stressing the gold in blending hard data with your gut in order to spot w…
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114: Mauro Figueiredo: Interview tips for finding martech talent and the risks of adopting AI as a learning substitute
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Mauro Figueiredo, a global Digital Transformation and MarTech leader (and Innovator). Summary: Mauro walked us through his blueprint for building multifaceted teams equipped with technical, emotional, and strategic competencies. We emphasized the significance of identifying martech…
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113: Abby Gailey: Automating direct mail with webhooks, navigating B2B2C and leveraging Slack communities
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Abby Gailey, Director of Marketing Operations at Vibrent Health. Summary: Abby walks us through the complicated marketing ops world of B2B2C healthcare SaaS, emphasizing a move from sales-centric to engagement-focused martech. We dive into curiosity and continuous learning, using t…
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112: Stephen Stouffer: The dawn of AI Ops and the practical wonders of combining AI tools with iPaaS
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Stephen Stouffer, VP, Digital Transformation & Innovation at SaaScend. Summary: Stephen shares practical and innovative examples of combining AI tools with iPaaS tools to do things like parsing email auto-responses and subcontracting tech support questions from family members. He’s…
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111: Jessenia Francisco: Leading MOps at Asana and Lucidchart, feeding on your own martech and overcoming imposter syndrome
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jessenia Francisco, Director, Marketing Operations at Lucid. Summary: Jessenia shares her journey from nonprofit to tech, emphasizing adaptability and purpose. She tackles imposter syndrome by fostering an inclusive culture, explores the strategic use of tools like Lucidchart in he…
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110: Josh Kim: Notion’s Growth Marketing Lead on choosing and democratizing experiments and the marketer’s role in a growth pod
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Josh Kim, Growth Marketing Lead at Notion. Summary: Josh elevated growth marketing from scattered tactics to a unified framework, emphasizing data-informed decisions, teamwork, and a cohesive vision. He detailed the significance of a marketer's adaptable role in a growth pod, the v…
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109: Deborah Mayen: Logitech’s Head of MOps on simplifying martech and antifragile cultures to withstand chaos
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Debbie Mayen, Head of Marketing Operations at Logitech. Summary: Debbie went from dreaming of diplomacy to steering the global martech ship at Logitech and takes us through a masterclass in making well timed bets and the art of simplifying martech. Her marketing operations mantra i…
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108: Ezra Fishman: Wistia’s VP of Growth on healthy data skepticism and North star metric limitations
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Ezra Fishman, VP of Growth at Wistia. About Ezra Ezra started his career as an engineer developing devices to help treat diabetes and obesity at GI Dynamics He later had a short stint as an Operations Manager at an investment firm that was dedicated to funding health tech startups …
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Summary: Justin is a polished voice of reason in martech. In our conversation, he focused on the practicality of AI, highlighting its capability to transform data into actionable insights, aiding in a deeper understanding of customer needs. We also covered the shift towards flexible, composable tech stacks and the importance of diverse skills along…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Crissy Saunders, CEO and Co-Founder at CS2. Summary: Crissy takes us through the evolution from tactical management to strategic leadership, and the adaptation to changing marketing strategies. We discuss the significance of specialized platforms in marketing automation, the critic…
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105: Josh Hill: Mastering martech with a hands-on, exploratory approach and rigorous data hygiene
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What’s up everyone, today we’re chatting with Josh Hill, a GTM operations and tech executive with more than 20 years of experience in B2B sales, marketing, and technology. Summary: Josh delved into how integrating sales experience into marketing strategies leads to more customer-centric approaches. He highlighted the importance of hands-on experien…
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104: Paul Wilson: The Butterfly effect of martech pros and why they will bring a new hope for AI
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What’s up everyone, today we have the honor of sitting down with a true martech Jedi Master: Paul Wilson, Founder and Chief Strategist at GTM Systems. Summary: Paul wielded his lightsaber of wisdom, skillfully navigating the nebula of modern marketing technology and the rise of generative AI. He shared insights on the strategic dance of early freel…
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What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with the acclaimed Britney Muller, Founder and Consultant at Data Sci 101 and former Senior SEO Scientist at Moz. Summary: Britney takes us on a wild ride through the intersection of marketing and AI, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, continuous learning, and ethical considera…
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What’s up folks. As we close in on episode 100 and the end of this season, one episode that’s been on the list for a while now is revealing how we do our AI images. Most of the comments we get on our social posts aren’t “wow amazing content, love the CDP topics, I learned so much about email deliverability…” It’s usually “that cover art is SO cool,…
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101: Darrell Alfonso: The rise of StratOps, managing your stack like a product, and the cycle of startups and consolidation
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Summary: We explored the dynamic intersection of StratOps and marketing operations, emphasizing the fusion of traditional marketing foundations with evolving tech trends for effective strategy formulation. Darrell emphasizes balancing technical skills with strategic acumen for career progression in marketing, and the need for diverse career paths b…
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100: Sara McNamara: Pathfinding via attribution, AI tool evaluation, and mastery in communication and boundary setting
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Summary: Sara offers practical advice for martech pros: emphasizing data literacy for informed marketing decisions, advocating simple attribution models in B2B contexts, and highlighting the balanced integration of engineering expertise in martech strategies. She underscores the significance of AI in automating tasks while stressing the importance …
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What’s up folks, if you follow the show you know that we wrap up each conversation by delving into how our guests manage to juggle their personal and professional lives while maintaining their well-being and career success. Our most popular episode continues to be our compilation of insights on this very topic. Due to its popularity, we've decided …
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In October, Google announced new guidelines that went unheard by many email marketers. They released a blog post as well. Yahoo also followed suit. There’s a lot of misguided commentary about the specifics of it, so today we’re going to break down some of the most important changes taking effect and why you should care. Main Takeaway: Google and Ya…
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97: Lauren Aquilino: Alleviating burnout and recognizing the specialized skills in marketing ops
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What’s up folks, today we’re joined by Lauren Aquilino, Founder & Principal Consultant @ EMMIE Collective. Summary: The essence of Lauren’s message transcends the specifics of MOPs; it's about the symbiosis between finding work that resonates on a personal level and the professional ecosystem that supports it. This is where fulfillment is found, an…
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96: Natalie Miles: Building vs. buying martech, the power of generalists and assembling a composable CDP
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What’s up everyone, today we’re joined by Natalie Miles, Head of Marketing Technology at Chime. Summary: Don't underestimate the role of generalists in martech; they're your go-to for system-level thinking and breaking down data silos. Building vs buying your tech stack? It's not black and white; successful setups usually mix both, and including en…
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95: Battle of the CDPs: Packaged vs. Composable, 10 experts weigh in
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What’s up everyone, today we’re taking a deep dive into customer data and the stack that enables marketers to activate it. We’ll be introducing you to packaged customer data platforms and the more flexible options of composable customer data stacks and getting different perspectives on which option is best. I’ve used both options at different compa…
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What’s up folks, today we’re joined by Ryan Gunn, Director of Demand Gen & Marketing Ops at Aptitude 8. Summary: HubSpot is not just a user-friendly CRM but also a forward-looking tool in the rapidly evolving world of AI and martech. While it's not a substitute for a dedicated data warehouse for complex queries, it serves well as a real-time connec…
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Summary: Skip the job title obsession and focus on work that matters to you. Learn from Tara's "The Sauce" model: pick the right channels and keep your promises for sustained engagement. Her social-first demand gen approach and simple yet creative hot sauce branding show how to resonate in today's martech scene. Use personal biases to create target…
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92: What's stopping AI from fully replacing marketers today? Insights from 10 industry experts
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What’s up folks, we’ve got another roundup episode today and we’re talking AI. Before you dismiss this and skip ahead, here's a quick summary of why the excitement around generative AI isn't just hype—it's a sustainable shift. While some may perceive AI to be losing steam, largely due to a surge of grifters in the field, this is not your average tr…
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What’s up folks, today we’re extremely privileged to be joined by David Chan, Managing Director at Deloitte Digital. Summary: Keep a keen eye on the modular evolution of CDPs. Know that reverse ETL tools are tactical additions, not replacements. Expect to reevaluate the roles of older platforms in your martech stack as CDPs get smarter. And if your…
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90: Lucie De Antoni: Startup alchemy, mixing data literacy and attribution with empathy and collaboration
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What’s up folks, today I have the pleasure of sitting down with Lucie De Antoni, Head of Marketing at Garantme. About Lucie Born and raised in France, Lucie got her start in event management before joining AirPlus International, the financial subsidiary of Lufthansa. At AirPlus she wore both marketing and communications hats, at local and global le…
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What’s up folks, today we’ll be joined by various martech pros sharing their opinions on the topic of warehouse-native martech. The landscape of marketing technology architecture has been undergoing – what you might call – a seismic shift and many don’t even realize it. In this transformation, there’s a remarkable development - warehouse-native mar…
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88: Tamara Gruzbarg: A hybrid approach to CDPs, white box predictive modeling and AI as a human in the loop system
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What’s up folks, today I have the pleasure of sitting down with Tamara Gruzbarg, VP Customer Strategy at ActionIQ – an enterprise Customer Data Platform. Summary: The discussion centered around the nuanced relationship between AI, marketing, and customer data platforms (CDPs). Tamara highlighted the excitement and limitations of AI, emphasizing the…
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87: Michael Katz: The Evolution of packaged CDPs, democratizing ML and the myths of composable and zero data copy
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What’s folks, today I’m pumped to be joined by Michael Katz, CEO and co-founder at mParticle, the leading independent customer data platform. Summary: In the contentious debate over Packaged and Composable CDPs, Michael delivers a clear-eyed perspective that cuts through the hype. Rejecting the idea that Pacakged CDPs are becoming obsolete, he emph…
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86: Deanna Ballew: Embracing open source composable martech, AI literacy and qualitative insights
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A Two Decade Journey Through the Whirlwind of Tech When asked about her impressive tenure at Acquia and Widen, spanning nearly 20 years, Deanna offered a wealth of insight. Unlike many professionals in the tech industry who frequently switch roles, Deanna has remained at Widen, continuing with the organization even after its acquisition by Acquia. …
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