"They're the only two people in the world who can possibly understand each other" A Conversation About Biden and Obama with Gabriel Debenedetti

With the Bark Off: Conversations on the American Presidency

Journalist Gabriel Debenedetti is the national correspondent for New York magazine, where he writes about politics and national affairs. He’s also written for Politico, Reuters, the New York Times Book Review, the Economist, and the New Republic, among other publications. Just this month, he published his remarkable first book, The Long Alliance: The Imperfect Union of Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

The Long Alliance delves into one of the most consequential political partnerships of recent times – the sometimes contentious, often close relationship between America’s forty-fourth and forty-sixth presidents. Gabe joined us to talk about how two men from different generations, with contrasting political styles, led the Democratic party through challenging moments of recent history, and continue to shape the nation today.