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Can We Defend a System Built on Lies? (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.28)
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Το περιεχόμενο παρέχεται από το Wayne Hsiung. Όλο το περιεχόμενο podcast, συμπεριλαμβανομένων των επεισοδίων, των γραφικών και των περιγραφών podcast, μεταφορτώνεται και παρέχεται απευθείας από τον Wayne Hsiung ή τον συνεργάτη της πλατφόρμας podcast. Εάν πιστεύετε ότι κάποιος χρησιμοποιεί το έργο σας που προστατεύεται από πνευματικά δικαιώματα χωρίς την άδειά σας, μπορείτε να ακολουθήσετε τη διαδικασία που περιγράφεται εδώ https://el.player.fm/legal.
Jeremy Loeb and I discuss the ethics of lying. From factory farms that create false ads, to politicians who deceive the public, manipulation is everywhere. Can that ever be justified?
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-36:54 Intro, Diestel Turkey Farm Investigation, Diestel Civil case judgment, Whole Foods & Diestel Turkey Farm interfering in the news media reporting on the case, Sonoma County Trial, cognitive dissonance of intelligent people, “canceling” Jeremy & Wayne, & thoughts on Trump
Chapter 2) 36:55-50:59 The problem with the news media, Vox series on factory farming & the media, Beef Industry lawsuit against ABC News, Diestel Civil case judgment without a trial, & anti-vegan bias in court
Chapter 3) 51:00-1:35:47 What happened during the Diestel Civil case appeal, cognitive decline, the legal & political system, defamation lawsuit discovery from during the Berkeley mayoral campaign, thought experiments, the importance of voting, & the importance of activism
Chapter 4) 1:35:48-1:51:12 Honesty, transparency, & trust given to society, the ways people lie, the ways political parties lie, & the ways corporations lie
Chapter 5) 1:51:13-1:58:18 Turkeys rescued from Diestel Turkey Farm (links below), false advertising from animal agriculture, activism is the moral baseline to create change, & stay tuned for updates on the Diestel Civil case
Chapter 6) 1:56:18-1:58:34 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books mentioned:“On Bullshit” by Harry G. Frankfurt
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Links:
DxE video investigation of Diestel Turkey Farm and turkey rescue (2015):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byb8WjknZxw
https://www.facebook.com/directactioneverywhere/videos/1089174481112900
“Direct Action Everywhere SF Bay Area v. Diestel Turkey Ranch” (2023):
https://casetext.com/case/direct-action-everywhere-sf-bay-area-v-diestel-turkey-ranch/
“Whole Foods Thanksgiving turkeys endure ‘horrific conditions’ at Calif. farm, activists say” (2015):
"Video Shows Abuse at Whole Foods Turkey Supplier, Activists Say: Diestel Turkey Ranch says video is misleading because it depicts narrow period of time"
By Kelsey Gee (2015):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/video-shows-abuse-at-whole-foods-turkey-supplier-activists-say-1448328713
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