Paul Kinkaid (Leadership Advisor, Forensic Outcomes): Great leadership comes from a position of care

Success on the South Coast

Success on the South Coast is all about showcasing interesting people doing amazing things in the local community.

My guest for episode #8 is Paul Kinkaid (Leadership Advisor, Forensic Outcomes), a retired senior officer in the British Army (who commanded elite teams in 44 countries on 5 continents over a 20-year career) who now shares his experience with organisations to “help good leaders get better”.

Paul is also an International Speaker, an Executive Coach and the bestselling author of ‘Forensic Leadership: The Traces We Leave Behind’ (released in July 2024), an exploration of his innovative leadership approach inspired by the principles of forensic science.

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In this episode we discuss:

• How forensic science inspired Paul’s innovative leadership framework
• The 3 principles of ‘Forensic Leadership’: Care, Notice & Transparency
• Leading during times of change or uncertainty
• How being conscious, deliberate, and intentional makes you a better leader
• Paul’s thoughts on the meaning of true Happiness (a sense of belonging, authenticity, love & joy))
• Paul’s view of Success (the ‘freedom’ of time)
• Life by Misadventure - a reminder to live in the moment

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00:00:00 - Intro ("A sunny new podcast...")
00:00:26 - Guest Intro.
00:01:35 - Welcome…
00:02:57 - Backstory in Military & early leadership experiences
00:05:38 - Are people born leaders?
00:06:47 - How does the military select leaders?
00:09:07 - The 1st great leader Paul met…
00:10:44 - What success meant to Paul in his early military career
00:12:35 - Lessons for leading during uncertainty…
00:15:49 - Jocko Willink on 'intent'
00:16:55 - Dealing with failure or traumatic life events…
00:19:45 - Importance of Reflection for elite teams
00:20:55 - How do you support others going through difficult times?
00:22:44 - Lack of leadership training in Corporate environments
00:26:33 - Daniel Pink's book 'Drive' and 3 intrinsic motivators
00:26:59 - How Paul knew it was time to leave the army
00:33:51 - Surprises in the corporate world?
00:36:12 - Switch from 'Selfless Leadership' to 'Forensic Outcomes'
00:36:41 - Development of 'Forensic Leadership'…
00:37:57 - Dr. Edmond Locard: the father of forensic science
00:39:33 - Every contact leaves a trace
00:41:22 - The 3 Principles of 'Forensic Leadership'
00:41:32 - Forensic Leadership: Principle #1 - Care
00:42:43 - Debunking the myth of military leadership (Command & control)
00:44:14 - How do you cultivate 'care' in a corporate environment?
00:46:37 - Can you teach a leader to care?
00:48:41 - Forensic Leadership: Principle #2 - Notice
00:49:51 - "The absence of the normal & presence of the abnormal"
00:51:46 - Forensic Leadership: Principle #3 - Transparency
00:52:10 - Three approaches to transparency inc. Radical transparency
00:53:34 - Finding the sweet spot of 'appropriate transparency'
00:56:04 - When did you last talk about leadership?
00:58:27 - "Slow is smooth & smooth is fast"
01:00:07 - Red traces and impact on motivation
01:04:44 - Forensic Outcomes & work with organisations
01:07:39 - Warning signs of organisations not ready for Forensic Leadership
01:09:40 - How important is charisma in a leader?
01:11:40 - Can teams be effective with poor leaders?
01:13:27 - What is happiness?
02:14:47 - What is success?
01:16:21 - Skills for Success - Calm, patience & curiousity
01:20:27 - Life by Misadventure - live in the moment
01:23:41 - Thank you, guest links & wrap-up

GUEST Links:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkinkaid
• Website: https://forensicoutcomes.com
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forensicoutcomes

• Buy Paul’s book ‘Forensic Leadership: The Traces We Leave Behind’: amzn.eu/d/01BO5Crd

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