War, PTSD, & Psychedelics | Kelsi Sheren | EP 446

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in person with veteran, entrepreneur, podcaster, and author, Kelsi Sheren. They discuss her upbringing, the discipline required for service, the necessity and reality of women in the armed forces, the lapse in standards at the hands of DEI, the trauma and PTSD incurred from combat, and how soldiers find solace when reintegrating with civilized life.
Kelsi Sheren is CEO of Brass & Unity and author of “Brass and Unity, One Woman’s Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back.” Kelsi is a distinguished Canadian veteran who served as a Gunner and Female Searcher during her deployment in Afghanistan. At Brass & Unity, Kelsi transforms bullet casings into jewelry, donating a portion of the profits to support veterans battling mental health issues. In addition to her work in the military, Kelsi is a champion in Taekwondo and host of the Brass & Unity podcast.
This episode was recorded on April 22nd, 2024
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“Brass & Unity: One Woman’s Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Brass-Unity-Journey-Through-Afghanistan/dp/1637588917
Brass & Unity Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWCy2PRfqQZraiSCocX4Gyw
Brass & Unity Website https://brassandunity.com/
- Chapters -
(0:00) Coming up
(0:32) Intro
(1:47) Discipline and drive: “I started fighting at four years old”
(5:20) Bullied as a tomboy, lack of relation, “I would have been transitioned”
(9:45) The discomfort and trauma of puberty, how sexual assault impacts young women
(12:53) Are trauma and the proclivity to develop PTSD linked?
(16:21) Joining the army, basic training, “way too masculine for a lot of women”
(24:02) Female versus male fail rate, lowering the standards
(25:56) Weapons breakdown, “This is not pretend”
(28:09) Joining a french-speaking unit
(32:06) How women and men serve in the military, their roles and obligations
(35:59) Both sexes need to operate under the same standards
(38:56) Selective outrage
(40:03) Sexual assault and DEI in the armed forces, regulating a war culture
(43:39) When Sheren shot her last round, noticeable fall in standards
(45:12) DEI makes things worse and leaves us reliant on the worst people
(48:23) Who will stand when the police turn on citizens?
(50:54) Afghanistan, actions in war, and post-reflection
(1:05:02) Serving with the Brits, near death experience, moral injury
(1:14:24) Clearing compounds, worsening emotional state
(1:21:17) “Something’s wrong,” diagnosed with acute PTSD
(1:24:09) Coming home, seeking treatment, and what worked
(1:26:14) What every soldier loses when they enter civilian life, use of cannabis
(1:27:59) How art therapy led to new purpose, founding Brass & Unity
(1:30:06) COVID ended the jewelry business, trying psychedelics
(1:32:41) There were other undiagnosed problems contributing to depression
(1:36:10) Meaning through responsibility
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