Τα καλύτερα Pluriverse podcast (2024)

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #8 Group talk: Empathic Communication 1:16:53

2y ago1:16:53

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After living a week under one roof, working together at the farm, walking together in silence, sharing breakfasts, dinners and thoughts, the group talk comes quite naturally. Here we are: Chiara, Ana, Pascale, Cynthia, Sophie and Erik, sitting in a circle in the shade of the biggest building in Spain, built during the Franco regime: Universidad Lab…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #7 Pascale Gatzen 50:22

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Pascale Gatzen fell in love with fashion as a child, became a designer and quickly fell out of love with the competitive, capitalistic fashion system. In New York she co-founded the workers cooperative Friends of Light that fabricated custom made woven jackets from local wool. This experience evolved into the Dutch ‘Linen Project’ an – also – coope…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post industrial-region #6 Cynthia Hathaway 52:24

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We decide to have the conversation in a parked car, with an enormous hand made world-of-wool-map on our lap. As if we are on an imaginary roadtrip through Cynthia Hathaway’s practise. It fits her way of working: creating fun, momentum and dialogue. Canadian born Hathaway came to the Netherlands in the late 90ies. She calls herself an artistic ‘sear…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #5 Chiara Sgaramella 57:05

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We asked Chiara Sgaramella to join our Asturias edition because her practice as an artistic researcher focusses on the connection between art and agriculture. She was born and raised in the heel of Italy’s boot, but currently lives and works in Valencia, Spain. Sgaramella sees art as an integrated part of daily life, as a collective effort. From th…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #4 Ana Carreño 39:57

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Ana Carreño takes us to public beach in Gijón/Xixon that is sandwiched between two industrial sites. While we look for a spot for our the interview we pass three women on a bench. One of them is singing. She says she used to sing a lot when she was young. Singing is a rural tradition. As a young woman she moved to the city for work and stopped sing…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #3 Vertical Field Trip 20:35

2y ago20:35

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Our guests, Ana Carreño, Chiara Sgaramella, Pascale Gatzen en Cynthia Hathaway have arrived. Before we dive into our 1 on 1 conversations, we try – as always – to truly arrive where we are. To ground, to temporarily root and sprout. To share this ‘vertical field trip’ we take you on a sonic tour. From Madrid's busy café's, to our cross-country trai…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #2 Virginia López 49:29

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We have arrived in Asturias! We stay in a wonderful former casería (farm house), turned into a residence: PACA, Projectos Artisticos Casa Antonino. Before our guests arrive we have time to walk around the premises and talk with Virginia López founder of PACA and our contextual guide for this week. But first: why are we here, in central Asturias, Sp…

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Asturias, Spain: Tuning into the struggles of a post-industrial region #1 Amelie Aranguren 32:51

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Before we travel to Asturias, we decide to make a pitstop in Madrid and visit the headquarters of INLAND: CAR, Centre For Approaching The Rural. Back in 2009, Fernando Garcia Dory started an agro-cutural-artistic community in Asturias. This was one of the reasons for us to set up our pluriversal camp in this region. This initiative evolved into a m…

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Pluriversal intermezzo: Baking bread in Bospolder-Tussendijken 34:45

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During the exhibition In Search of the Pluriverse at Het Nieuwe Instituut (April-August 2022), artist, cook and weaver Aslı Hatipoğlu handed out sachets of sourdough culture, micro-organisms with which you can make dough for bread. To help all potential home-bakers getting started, but also because baking bread together is more fun and energy effic…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #10 Yemoh Odoi 23:06

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Artist, cook, boxer, musician and cultural producer Yemoh Odoi was fascinated as a child by the desert and its nomadic inhabitants. The silence, the space, the absence of people and references. He left Ghana at the age of 18 and travelled his way up to Casablanca via Senegal and the magnificent Sahara. He founded The Minority Globe to give voice to…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #9 Grocco/Trick54 22:13

2y ago22:13

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As a kid Grocco – artist name, his real name is a well kept secret – wanted to make a difference “I’m gonna be King of Casablanca!”. He worked hard and became a grafitti legend. His tag Trick54 can be found all over Marocco and is unavoidable in the urban Casablanca area. Covid kept Grocco inside and he started to draw more. From his sketchbook, fa…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #8 Fountain Talk 1:11:25

2y ago1:11:25

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We meet at Musée Collectif with all participants of this ‘who owns the city’ edition: Mouna, Bodil, Rubén, Samba and Mohamed. Maria could not make it but is present in spirit. Some new voices join: street artist Grocco/Trick54 (more on him in talk #4 and #9), cultural producer Jamal Abdennassar (who Wong & Krier worked with in 201o) and artist/cura…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #7 Mohamed Faridji 37:01

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Mohamed Faridji co-founded Atelier de l’Observatoire in 2011, around the same time we – Wong & Krier – lived and worked in Casablanca for three months. At the time we did not meet, now we do. We were attracted by Le Musée Collectif (part of Atelier de l’Observatoire) a roaming museum, housed in sea container, presently located in Parc de la Ligue A…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #6 Samba Soumbounou 45:00

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After taking us to Lac d’Oulfa, Sidi Moumen and Hay Mohammedi for our vertical field trip (talk #2), today Samba Soumbounou brings us to the neighbourhood where he first settled in Casa, arriving from Mauretania 10 years ago. He is a cultural engineer and mediator: connecting dots and making these connections meaningful and productive. Samba is the…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #5 Bodil Ouédraogo 42:38

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Bodil Ouédraogo was born and raised in Amsterdam by a Dutch mother and a father from Burkina Faso. As a human being and as a designer she cherishes her bi-cultural background. She studies it, she materialises it. In her own words: “I have no choice, my identity cannot be ignored.” After an interesting fashion walk through Casa with Mouna Belgrini, …

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Casablanca: who owns the city #4 Mouna Belgrini 52:17

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Mouna Belgrini is the perfect tour guide: she knows Casablanca in and out, and she effortlessly connects places, facts and narratives. We could have roamed the city for weeks, but had to limit ourselves to a sublime day of walking and talking. Belgrini is a (photo)journalist, cultural producer and communicator. On a practical level this means Mouna…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #3 Rubén Dario Kleimeer 38:56

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Rotterdam based photographer Rubén Dario Kleimeer portrays the urban landscape and the people inhabiting it. He uses the medium photography to analyse and better understand urban spaces. With the gaze of an urban ethnographer, he explores the built environment in which we live, work and dwell. Kleimeer picked the spot for our conversation: Place de…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #2 Vertical Field Trip 25:24

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In the meantime all four participants/makers of this Casablanca edition have arrived: Bodil Ouédraogo, Rubén Dario Kleimeer, Mouna Belgrini and Samba Soumbounou. Next to local insider Maria Daïf, Francien van Westrenen from Het Nieuwe Instituut joins us for the five day programme that in the end results in this series of conversations, but kicks of…

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Casablanca: who owns the city #1 Maria Daïf 41:04

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In 2010, we – Wong & Krier – lived and worked for three months in Casa, as locals call Casablanca. Aim was to embrace the city as a place of production and to make a portrait of its hidden qualities: We named it: ICI Casa, Ville Inventive. The resulting exhibition was an optimistic tribute to the resourcefulness of a thriving city. Many questions h…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #7 Finale: Body talk 1:09:14

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Imagine a cold, dark and rainy afternoon in November. The group (Dimitrova, Espinosa, Zahn, Wong, Krier and audiotechnician Robert) gathers under an old amusement park bumper-car-roof. We wear silent headphones with discolights. We are in the shadows of Haus der Statistik, that houses artistic and research based projects during its renovation. We u…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #6 Intermezzo: other voices, other lives 12:42

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We do realise that outside our hyperfocused Berlin bubble, this city hosts many other lives and voices that deserve to be heared and recognised. And that is why – in this short intermission – we make room for Doreen, Vasille, Fluss Puss and Johanna, Berliners we met while walking the streets. What does fluidity mean to them? What brought them here?…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #5 Sabine Zahn: Doing the city 46:23

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Sabine Zahn lives and works in Berlin. She investigates how choreographic strategies can help understand how urban space can be lived, expressed and transformed. She creates public research projects and processes which are often based on scripts that set something – often bodies – in motion. In 2021, Sabine was appointed a fellow in the DAS Graduat…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #4 Tomás Espinosa: The art of cruising 48:21

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Tomás Espinosa is artist and activist. He works in both in Berlin and Bogotá. The tension between the ‘intimate’ and the ‘public’ fuels his work. He installed two hanging mirrors with holes in a Berlin park, where men meet for sex. He filmed the installation and put a soundscape under it in which you hear Espinosa cruising through the greenery, mak…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #3 Kornelia Dimitrova: Playbook for healing 49:00

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Architectural researcher Kornelia Dimitrova co-founded Foundation We Are, a collective of nine creative minds and makers. We had a Warming Up Talk in 2020 with Kornelia and her co-founder Bernhard Lenger. Dimitrova’s analytic and bright approach of the built environment and social dynamics stuck with us, so we asked her to join us for our Berlin ed…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #2 Vertical field trip: sensing Fischerinsel 23:42

2+ y ago23:42

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We start every pluriversal trip with a joined experience: a vertical fieldtrip, or an ‘acupuncture of place’ as Sophie Krier calls it. Guided by participant Sabine Zahn we (Tomás Espinosa, Kornelia Dimitrova, Benoît Verjat, Sophie Krier and Erik Wong) attempt to ‘feel’ one of the oldest, but now quite nondescript parts of Berlin: Fisherinsel. Sabin…

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Fluid selves, fluid Berlin #1 Daan van Kampenhout: Fucking with the Gods 47:23

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Although in time it was our last conversation, we decided to start this string of talks with Daan van Kampenhout. His take on fluidity is inspiring and a perfect introduction to our series ‘Fluid selves, fluid Berlin’. Van Kampenhout’s interest in shamanism started after having vidid dreams during a malaria infection. He graduated from art school w…

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Thriving on Mull Detour Talk - With Mae-Ling Lokko & Henriëtte Waal (Accra/Arles/The Hague) 40:33

2+ y ago40:33

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Ghanaian-Filipino architectural scientist Mae-ling Lokko is active in the field of biomaterials. A recent work discussed in this talk is Thresholds of Return, a gate made of waste from the Ghanian coconut industry. It is a reconstruction of the Door of No Return in Elmina (Ghana), through which the enslaved were led out of Africa. Wong & Krier got …

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Thriving on Mull #13: Bonus: sounds of Mull 3:31

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Just before we left we handed all the sounds we recorded along the way, over to sound engineer Martin Low. He mixed it into this soundscape. The last pearl of the string. Thank you Martin, Mull and everyone we’ve met along the way.Από τον pluriverse

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Thriving on Mull #12: Aslı Hatipoğlu on microbes, food and community. 39:53

2+ y ago39:53

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Aslı Hatipoğlu is weaver, researcher and cook. “By cooking in specific environments, and engaging with people from different cultural backgrounds, I run into stories, which lead me to subjects such as history, psychology, spirituality, ecology and science. I translate these stories into textiles or printed edible materials, and curate dinners aroun…

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Thriving on Mull #11: Radio Round & About: Barn Talk 1:59:59

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After all these 1 on 1’s with our hosts Miek and Rutger, the neighbours, and guests Tim & Reiko, Tom and Anne it is time to listen, share and discuss in a larger local context. We invited more local voices: theater director Rebecca Atkinson-Lord (Tobermory), new generation Mull crofter Renatus Derbidge, Oban-based curator Naoko Mabon, artist Mhairi…

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Thriving on Mull #10: Anne van Leeuwen on unboxing thinking 40:59

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It is Anne van Leeuwen’s personal mission to bring about regenerative crossovers between nature and culture and to translate these into concrete projects and propositions. Part of this effort involves creating a constructive dialogue between scientists, artists, business persons, politicians, citizens and wherever possible non-humans. In the past y…

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Thriving on Mull #9: Tom Morton on emptiness 46:38

2+ y ago46:38

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Architect Tom Morton founded ARC, a small architectural practice based in a former candle-making workshop in Cupar, Fife, in the east of Scotland. Its nature-based work transcends architectural practice to encompass diverse creative and learning activities such as repairing mud walls, communicating material physics, and building festivals. Erik mee…

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Thriving on Mull #8: Tim Collins & Reiko Goto on empathy 46:35

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Scotland-based artist duo Collins+Goto Studio (Tim Collins and Reiko Goto) are known for their long-term projects that involve socially engaged environmental research and practice in both the USA and the UK. In 2019, after ten years of research, they launched the Plein Air LP, featuring Scotland-based recordings with the help of a plant-driven synt…

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Thriving on Mull #7: Vertical plastic: sailing with Mark Jardine 40:15

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In the meantime our guests from the Netherlands and Scotland have arrived: Anne van Leeuwen, Tom Morton, Tim Collins & Reiko Goto. Unfortunately our fifth guest Aslı Hatipoğlu bumped into the invisible Nation State wall and didn’t make it further than Schiphol airport. Her talk is the last one in this series, we looked her up in Maastricht when we …

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Thriving on Mull #6: Having coffee with Jimmy Campbell 20:17

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A bit further down the road lives Jimmy Campbell, the third neighbour we talked to. Apart from taking care of 600 sheep, Jimmy and his wife Christine run a succesful camping site, soon to be taken over his daughter and son in law. A talk about sheep that eat seaweed, the changing flow of tourists, the ultra low market price for wool, and helping ea…

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Thriving on Mull #5: Wading to Judy Gibson on Erraid 48:26

2+ y ago48:26

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Judy Gibson spent all her childhood summers on the Isle of Erraid. 5 years ago she relocated here permanently. She shares the island – or tidal island – with the spiritual Findhorn community. Despite living across a narrow strip of sea, Judy is one of Miek and Rutger’s closest neighbours. A talk about community work, her father – Tony Gibson’s – le…

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Thriving on Mull #4: A walk & talk with John Cameron 22:45

2+ y ago22:45

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John and Linda Cameron live at Knockvologan 1, next door to where Miek and Rutger live. This is where the Ross of Mull ends, or begins. Camper drivers are often suprised by this fact and have to turn around, or… decide to spend the night on the land of the Camerons. John has lived here all his life, takes care of sheep and cows and drives his ‘quad…

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Thriving on Mull #3: Baking bread with Rutger Emmelkamp 18:08

3y ago18:08

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While Erik and Miek are hiking, Sophie joins Rutger at his morning routine of baking bread. It took him more than a year to get it right: to build a productive relation with the sourdough culture that helps him bake the bread. As a bonus Rutgers shows the ‘barn in a barn’ that he has been building for the past two years. We give you two words: pig …

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Thriving on Mull #2: A walk with Miek Zwamborn 15:31

3y ago15:31

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Early Birds Miek and Erik go for a walk and enter a magical world. Eaten alive by the midges they talk about how much we don’t know and how Miek finds words for things she sees: by looking at them over and over and over again. As a bonus Miek reads the poem ‘Oaks at Knockvologan’ bij local poet Derek Crook. Miek Zwamborn is an artist, novelist, boo…

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Thriving on Mull #1: Miek Zwamborn and Rutger Emmelkamp 41:03

3y ago41:03

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Finally: after a warming up that took us longer than expected, we take you to the weather beaten, Scottish Isle of Mull. And how better to arrive than meeting our hosts Miek and Rutger. Two Dutch artists who decided to move to the southern tip of the island. There, surrounded by sea, sheep, bog and a nature reserve, they worked the past five years …

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Getting in the mood for Mull #2 – with Jay Tompt 38:50

3y ago38:50

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On the weather-beaten island of Mull, off the west coast of Scotland, two artists from the Netherlands set up camp, taking a vow to “work with the elements, not fight them”. Over time they grew a garden, a seasonal residency programme and a neighbourhood barn-in-a-barn. How to thrive and make kin with other humans and non-humans in such a remote pl…

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Getting in the mood for Mull #1 – with Suzanne Dhaliwal 35:51

3y ago35:51

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On the weather-beaten island of Mull, off the west coast of Scotland, two artists from the Netherlands set up camp, taking a vow to “work with the elements, not fight them”. Over time they grew a garden, a seasonal residency programme and a neighbourhood barn-in-a-barn. How to thrive and make kin with other humans and non-humans in such a remote pl…

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Testing İstanbul’s Waters spin off: Dersim’s Waters 29:54

3y ago29:54

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As part of the podcast episode Testing İstanbul’s Waters, impact maker and Dutch politician with Kurdish roots Kıvılcım Özmen shares the stories of her grandmother Besê Diribaş (1915-1996) about the layered meaning of water in Dersim. Eastern Anatolia has been home to many Kurds for centuries. Some continue to live there even after the Dersim massa…

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Thirst Walk & Talk - Bonus track 5:09

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In four short audio notes, Sophie and Erik reflect on the Thirst Talk. Sophie brings in Arturo Escobar’s writings and Erik announces an epilogue of our İstanbul adventure… For more information about In Search of the Pluriverse visit hnix.nl/pluriverse and follow @insearchofthepluriverse on Instagram.…

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Thirst Walk & Talk: On water as continuity. 56:31

3y ago56:31

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With designer Nur Horsanalı, urbanist Yaşar Adnan Adanalı, river mobiliser Li An Phoa and architect Eva Pfannes from OOZE. Finally Sophie and Erik meet up with Nur Horsanalı, Yaşar Adnan Adanalı, Eva Pfannes from OOZE and Li An Phoa at the same time, in virtual space. After a synchronised one hour walk, following the THIRST WALK instructions Sophie…

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Testing İstanbul‘s Waters: Thirst Talk #5 – with Serkan Taycan 22:47

3y ago22:47

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In this extra Thirst Talk, Sophie crosses – virtual – paths with engineer and artist Serkan Taycan who initiated the Between Two Seas Walk: an artwork, a heritage walk and an open air laboratory at the same time. By combining the notion of engineering with an artistic practice, Taycan tries to make us aware of how spatial decision-making can have e…

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Testing İstanbul‘s Waters: Thirst Talk #4 – with Yasar Adnan Adanalı 23:06

3y ago23:06

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In Thirst Talk #4, Sophie meets up with urbanist and İstanbulite Yaşar Adnan Adanalı. A talk about how all spatial issues have social consequences. Also the idea of walking as a way to produce knowledge and the importance of ‘scale’ pop up during this short, animated talk. Cited references Yaşar Adnan Adanalı yasaradanali.com Infected Cities Series…

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Testing İstanbul’s Waters: Thirst Talk #3 – with Eva Pfannes (OOZE) 19:26

3y ago19:26

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In Thirst Talk #3, Erik has a conversation with Eva Pfannes, one of the founders of OOZE. A talk about ‘oozing’ as a slow process without boundaries. The conversation starts in a Rotterdam neighbourhood and ends in a temporary natural swimming pond in London. Dip in! Cited references Ooze (Eva Pfannes and Silvain Hartenberg) www.ooze.eu.com/ IABR “…

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Testing İstanbul’s Waters: Thirst Talk # 2 – with Nur Horsanalı 23:01

3y ago23:01

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In this second Thirst Talk, Sophie meets designer and Istanbulite Nur Horsanalı, who spent a lot of time on the famous Galata bridge to observe fishermen and the social and economic structure that surrounds them. There is a lot of ‘halletmek’ going on there. What is halletmek? Tune in and find out. Cited references Nur on insta www.instagram.com/nu…

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Testing İstanbul‘s Waters: Thirst Talk #1 – with Li An Phoa 20:14

3y ago20:14

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Testing İstanbul's Waters: Thirst Talk #1 – with Li An Phoa In this first episode Erik meets up with researcher and activist Li An Phoa, who walked 15.000 kilometers in the past 10 years to mobilise all stakeholders involved in the well being of rivers. A talk about the precious 2% of fresh, drinkable water there is on this planet. Cited references…

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