An excellent conversation with a very smart gentleman in the intelligence community, Jasper Hartmann. Jasper is an internationally recognised and highly sought-after instructor and keynote speaker in HUMINT (human intelligence) and human-centric counterintelligence. His expertise lies in interpersonal intelligence skills, including elicitation, counter-elicitation, strategic questioning techniques, and tactical behavioural analysis. He trains businesses and government institutions in countering threats such as (industrial) espionage, insider risks and hybrid warfare (sabotage). Jasper has been trained by both current and former leading military and intelligence professionals in the United States. He provides global training in human centric counterintelligence for companies seeking to strengthen their resilience and robustness against critical incidents, including (industrial) espionage, hybrid warfare, and other risk-based challenges posed by foreign state and non-state actors. As a keynote speaker, Jasper has gained international recognition at events such as the World Police Summit in Dubai and Homeland Security conferences. He is internationally represented by the speakers’ bureau Big Speak. He serves as an Intelligence Officer at Sector Intell. Group in the United States, an Associate Partner at Praesidium Risk and Resilience in Australia, and is a certified Layered Voice Analysis (LVA) operator by Nemesysco. Jasper has also previously been a associate partner to Paul Ekman International (formerly PEI, now PEG).…