The 20 Minute Call Podcast is a podcast about the dreamers, boundary pushers, rebels and champions of the skydiving industry. Each episode is a narrative journey highlighted by the highs, lows, and luck that the skydiving industry delivers told by the most influential people within the sport. If you’ve ever dreamed of becoming a skydiver, opening a DZ or becoming the next world champion, check out The 20 Minute Call hosted by James La Barrie
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we sit down with Chazi Rutz—an accomplished skydiver, coach, and competitor whose career is as dynamic as it is inspiring. Based in Eloy, Arizona, Chazi has completed over 10,700 jumps and earned silver and bronze medals at the USPA Nationals in freestyle and freeflying. She has contributed to …
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Chris Wagner - Former US Army Golden Knight & Former Member of Army Special Forces
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1:03:58Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we welcome Chris Wagner—an accomplished skydiver, competitor, and leader in the sport. A former member of the U.S. Army Parachute Team, the Golden Knights, Chris has helped shape the evolution of Formation Skydiving, earning multiple gold medals at the World Skydiving Championships and setting …
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Mike Gruwell: Owner, Chutingstar Skydiving Superstore
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1:01:14Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Mike Gruwell is a skydiving entrepreneur, master rigger, and industry leader whose journey in the sport began with a single jump in 1995. What started as a passion quickly turned into a career, leading him to become an FAA Master Rigger, AFF Instructor, Tandem Instructor, and 4-way competitor. In 1999, he found…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Ashley Marquardt is a pilot, skydiver, and adventurer whose journey in aviation has been nothing short of remarkable. In just five years since earning her commercial pilot’s license, she went from flying a Cessna 172 at Skydive Cross Keys to piloting a Twin Otter at Skydive Dubai. Along the way, she served as t…
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Stephen "Hatz" Hatzistefandis | DZO Pegasus Skydive Center
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1:06:11Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Stephen "Hatz" Hatzistefandis is a true adventurer and a standout personality in the world of skydiving. With over 3,500 jumps—including more than 2,000 tandems—Hatz has built a reputation for orchestrating skydives in some of the most breathtaking locations on the planet. From the Great Pyramids of Egypt to th…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Anthony “The Kid” Zerbonia is one of the most respected wingsuit pilots in the sport, with over 3,300 skydives—more than 2,300 of them dedicated to wingsuit flying. A two-time national champion in acrobatic wingsuit flying, Anthony has represented the U.S. on the world stage, earning podium finishes at national…
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Pablito Perazzoli - Master Rigger & Skydiver
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1:21:22Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode With over two decades in skydiving and parachute rigging, Pablito Perazzoli has built a reputation for precision and expertise. Originally from Argentina, his journey began with an unexpected introduction to sewing during a high school exchange in New Zealand—an invaluable skill that shaped his career. Pablito …
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Ossie Khan: Australian Skydiver and BASE Jumper
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1:15:17Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode With over 10,000 jumps and more than three decades in the sport, Ossie Khan has made a lasting impact on skydiving and BASE jumping. As the owner of Melbourne Skydive Centre, he has trained countless skydivers and contributed as a safety management speaker and tourism consultant, shaping adventure tourism in Au…
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Craig Girard: 8 Time Formation Skydiving World Champion (2023)
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1:19:47Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Born in Tempe, Arizona, Craig Girard made his first jump on March 14, 1981, at Sky Hi-Pioneer DZ, Phoenix, AZ, and has since accumulated over 32,000 jumps. His illustrious career spans more than four decades, and he has won numerous awards and championships, including US National Champion 8-way for an impressiv…
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Matt Blank: Skydiver, BASE Jumper and Co-Host of the Exit Point Podcast
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1:32:10Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Matt Blank is a true adventurer who has packed a lifetime of extraordinary experiences into his years. A well-known figure in multiple adventure sports communities, Matt has traveled the globe, embracing the highs and lows that come with a life of pushing boundaries. From leaping off iconic objects like great s…
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Amy Chmelecki - Red Bull Air Force Team & Member of the Skydiving Hall of Fame
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1:23:47Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Amy Chmelecki has spent nearly three decades pushing the boundaries of human flight, amassing over 20,000 skydives and 2,000 hours of wind tunnel time. A true trailblazer, Amy holds an astonishing 25 skydiving world records, 3 world titles, and 9 national titles across disciplines like freefly, freestyle, verti…
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Jason Moledzki - Multi-Time World Champion Skydiver, Artist and Podcast Host
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1:06:54Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is one of the most recognized skydivers and BASE jumpers on planet earth. Say the word “JayMo” in any skydiving community and they know you’re referring to Jason Moledzki. Since making his first static line jump from a Cessna 182 at Skydive Toronto in 1994, Jason has amassed an unparalleled resum…
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Don Kirlin - World Free Fall Convention Founder
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1:23:09Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Don Kirlin is a visionary leader whose remarkable contributions have left a profound impact on both the aviation and skydiving worlds. As the founder of Air USA, Don provided tactical aircraft services to U.S. defense agencies and contractors earning recognition as the owner of one of the "world’s most advanced…
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Bruce Travis - Formation Skydiver Extraodinaire
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1:05:46Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Bruce Travis, born and raised in Montana, has spent decades as an engineer and skydiver, achieving incredible milestones in each. A graduate of Montana State University with a degree in aerospace and mechanical engineering, Bruce served in the U.S. Air Force as a Combat Controller during the Vietnam War, provid…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Bruno Brokken, originally from Belgium, has dedicated more than four decades to the sport, amassing over 27,000 jumps and a reputation as one of the most skilled aerial photographers and videographers in the world. His work has captured the essence of skydiving, from world records to exotic boogies, and even hi…
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Olav Zipser - The Father of Free Fly Skydiving
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1:08:43Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Olav Zipser, born in Simmern, Germany, began his skydiving career in 1986 and quickly revolutionized the sport by introducing non-traditional forms of body flight - in other words departing the known world of flying on your belly to flying on multiple axes, namely on your head. His innovative approach led to th…
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Gustavo Cabana: Hall of Fame Skydiving Aerial Photographer
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1:13:21Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is one of the world’s most celebrated skydiving camera flyers, with a career that spans over 30 years and more than 28,000 jumps. Gustavo Cabana, originally from Buenos Aires, Argentina, turned a simple VHS camera and a passion for skydiving into a lifelong profession, capturing some of the most …
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In part two of this two-part episode with Norman Kent, we resume our conversation, speaking more about Norman's professional career. If you've not yet listened to Part I, please listen to last week's episode first. Norman Kent is considered by many to be one of the greatest skydiving aerial photographers and ci…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is considered by many to be one of the greatest skydiving aerial photographers and cinematographers in the history of the sport. Norman Kent made his first jump at 19 years old. Now, at 68, he is still on the top of the mountain capturing the sport's most extraordinary images. At the time of this…
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Jen Davidson - Former US Army Golden Knight and Multi-Time World Champion
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1:14:34Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Jen Davidson, a distinguished former member of the elite U.S. Army Golden Knights, has showcased her skydiving expertise in some of the most high-profile jumps worldwide, including an awe-inspiring jump at the Statue of Liberty and multiple high-profile stadium jumps as part of the demonstration team. Throughou…
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Brian "BK" Krause - Multi-Time World Champion & Former Team Captain of the Golden Knights
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1:22:16Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Brian "BK" Krause is a legendary figure in the skydiving community, with an impressive career that spans both military and civilian achievements. With over 23,000 jumps to his name, BK is known for leading the resurgence of the U.S. Army's Golden Knights 8-Way formation skydiving team. Under his leadership as c…
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Jeana Billings: World Champion in 4 & 8-Way Formation Skydiving
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1:06:05Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Jeana Billings has made an incredible impact on the skydiving world since her first jump in 2013. In just a few short years, she has become a dominant force in Formation Skydiving competitions. In 2018, Jeana and her team, Paraclete XP8, won the U.S. National Championships in the 8-Way event. By 2019, she added…
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Kirk Verner - Multi-Time World Champion FS Skydiver / GM Skydive Paraclete XP
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1:30:40Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Kirk Verner is a true legend in skydiving, with a remarkable career spanning decades. As a founding member of Arizona Airspeed, Kirk has amassed an incredible 72 gold medals at world and national levels in both 4-Way and 8-Way formation skydiving. His achievements place him among the most successful competitors…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Zainab Alibhai has defied expectations and broken significant barriers, earning a place of recognition within the international skydiving community. Originally from Kenya, Zainab made her first skydive in 2014—a life-changing experience that set her on a remarkable path. From that moment, she embarked on an unc…
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Sherry Butcher: DZO, Aerohio & USPA Vice-President
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1:00:31Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Sherry Butcher is a highly accomplished and influential figure in the skydiving community. She co-owns Aerohio Skydiving Center in Ashland, Ohio, and has been actively involved in the sport for over 30 years. Sherry made her first jump in May 1993 and has since made over 10,000 jumps. Her passion for skydiving …
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Rook Nelson | DZO, Skydive Chicago (Feb 2024)
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1:21:41Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we dive into the world of Rook Nelson, a respected figure in the skydiving community and the owner of the legendary Skydive Chicago. With an astounding 26,000+ jumps to his name, Rook is a decorated competitor, boasting 13 World Championship Titles, 17 World Records, and 36 National Titles. His…
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Rich Grimm Returns - Tsunami Skydivers Exotic Boogies
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1:06:04Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Join us for an exhilarating episode as the master storyteller, Rich Grimm, returns for a second time to recount his latest adventures in the Seychelles and South Africa boogies. Get ready for a rollercoaster of emotions as Rich shares the thrilling highs and challenging lows of organizing skydiving events in so…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Matt Fry is a well-respected free flyer with a curiosity for various disciplines that include artistic freefly, big way VFS and even Speed Skydiving! If you’re not familiar with Matt Fry, you’ve seen his work as he served as one of the organizers for this year’s Max Pyro jump which must be considered one of the…
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Cheryl Stearns - Decorated Pilot and Champion Skydiver Returns
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1:14:17Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode The indomitable Cheryl Stearns returns to the 20-Minute Call for a second interview to delve deeper into her remarkable career. We explore her aviation journey with over 23,000 flight hours, her quest to break Colonel Joe Kittinger's high jump record with StratoQuest, and her resilience in overcoming loss. Cher…
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Craig O'Brien | Aerial Cinematographer (Replay)
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1:08:05Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Craig O'Brien has accomplished so much that often his title as a 5-time US National Champion and 3-time World Champion is overlooked! This oversight only happens because of the glowing items on his resumé which includes filming the epic skydiving scenes in Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Kingsman, Godzilla, Point Break, …
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Doug Smith: DZO, Chicagoland Skydiving Center
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1:02:37Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Doug Smith has been in the sport of skydiving for 30 years and is renowned for creating one of the world's most beautiful dropzones - Chicagoland Skydiving Center. In 2011, CSC transitioned from Hinckley, Illinois, to a state-of-the-art 20,000-square-foot facility in nearby Rochelle. This impressive center feat…
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Sara Curtis - World Record Skydiver & Organizer
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1:14:19Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Sara Curtis is our guest today, and her resumé reads like a thrilling adventure novel. She’s a stuntwoman, business owner, politician, and world record skydiver. With three World Titles, 11 National Titles in Vertical Formation Skydiving (VFS), 20 World Records, and over 17,000 skydives to her name, Sara Curtis…
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Jon Devore | Captain of the Red Bull Air Force
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1:16:23Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today has truly lived a life that transcends even the wildest dreams of a successful career in skydiving. With over 500 BASE jumps and 17,000 skydives, Jon Devore is a highly respected camera flyer, BASE jumper, wingsuiter, world champion free flyer, and stunt performer. His work has been featured in m…
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Marta Molinska - European Skydiving Symposium
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1:11:04Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is making significant waves in the international skydiving community. Marta Molinska, a well-known skydiver and organizer, is behind one of the most thrilling events emerging out of Europe—the European Skydiving Symposium. With over 2,000 jumps to her name, Marta is an AFF Instructor and Event Ma…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is from the Pioneer era of parachuting and yet is the sports biggest ambassador. Kim Emmons Knor made her first jump in 1959. As a member of the first U.S. Women’s Parachute Team, she won gold at the Sixth World Parachuting Championships. Flash forward to present day, or 65 years after her first …
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Rudy Ribbeck deployed to Vietnam at 19, piloting a Huey helicopter. He was shot down three times and awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, two Bronze Stars, and 53 Air Medals. In his second tour, he flew reconnaissance missions in fixed-wing aircraft. Returning to the US, Rudy served at STRICOM and was assign…
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Alan Eustace - WR Skydiver and Former Google Exec
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1:08:29Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Today's guest is Alan Eustace, who captured global attention on October 24, 2014, by setting the world record for the highest altitude jump at 135,890 feet and the longest freefall distance. His suit from this jump is displayed at the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum in Virginia. Prior to this, Alan …
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JaNette Lefkowitz - Skydive Chicago Rhythm XP
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1:15:06Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode JaNette Lefkowitz is a towering figure in competitive skydiving in the United States. JaNette's influence spans widely; it's a common thread among many four-way teams to find at least one member who has benefited from her coaching or mentorship. As the co-founder of SDC Rhythm XP, she has been at the helm of a …
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Becca Farewell - An Indomitable Force in Skydiving
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1:14:53Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Today's guest is a standout figure in the skydiving world. Becca Farewell, with over 7,000 jumps and 11 years of experience, has served as a tandem instructor, AFF Instructor, and videographer at notable locations including Go Jump Oceanside, Skydive Elsinore, and Skydive Perris. Renowned for her vibrant energy…
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Regan Tetlow - The Voice of Skydiving
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1:11:23Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode JOIN OUR COMMUNITY Love the show? Help support it by becoming a member of the 20 Minute Call Community! Supporting the show gives access to a private group page where you can: - suggest who you'd like to hear on the podcast - learn what interviews will be upcoming - submit questions for future guests -receive s…
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Danny Smith - DZO, Skydive Carolina!
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1:11:54Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Danny Smith has been the DZO at Skydive Carolina for 38 years and counting! Throughout his tenure, he's endured major challenges, and yet he still loves it (a rarity!). In this episode we talk about Danny's amazing career and love for skydiving. This is a special episode for me as Danny Smith has done so much f…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Larry Hill is the visionary behind one of the most recognized dropzones in the world, Skydive Arizona. Larry’s influence extends beyond the operation of his famous dropzone. He has been a crucial supporter of competitive skydiving, particularly through his backing of the storied, Arizona Airspeed. This support …
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Cheryl Stearns - Skydiving Legend
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1:10:18Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today is arguably one of the most accomplished skydivers in history. Cheryl Stearns has received every major accolade in skydiving and holds an incredible record as a pilot. Cheryl holds: 33 National Championships 30 World Records 22,000+ Jumps First Female Member of the Golden Knights Most Jumps by a …
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Lesley Gale - Hall of Fame Skydiver
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1:01:19Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today can best be described as a force! Lesley Gale is the owner of 11 World records, 3 British records 4 European records, has competed and medaled at more than 100 skydiving competitions, has been a key organizer for 20 female world, national and European Records. Lesley was also the editor of Britis…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today can best be described as a pioneer for his significant contributions to the sport. Paul Fayard has competed at the highest level having a national and world champion in 4-way, has served as an instructor, rigger, pilot, dropzone owner, operator and most famously, aircraft owner. It should also be…
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Craig Girard | 8 Time World Champion (2023)
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1:19:47Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Born in Tempe, Arizona, Craig Girard made his first jump on March 14, 1981, at Sky Hi-Pioneer DZ, Phoenix, AZ, and has since accumulated over 32,000 jumps. His illustrious career spans more than four decades, and he has won numerous awards and championships, including US National Champion 8-way for an impressiv…
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Tony Uragallo - Tony Suits Founder
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1:02:16Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeΑπό τον James La Barrie
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Elliot Byrd | Cameraflyer
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1:13:08Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeΑπό τον James La Barrie
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This EpisodeΑπό τον James La Barrie
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In today's episode, we're joined by the legendary Mike McGowan, whose 50+ year career as a skydiving photographer has redefined the sport. Mike's contributions include revolutionizing judging at skydiving competitions, capturing record-breaking moments, and earning prestigious honors such as the USPA Gold Medal…
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