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That's Pretty Dark: An '80s & '90s Nostalgia Podcast

Kalyn Andrews & Christian Baxter Mott

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Here for the '80s & '90s kids who still long for the safe, spooky glow of the TV screen in a dark room, Kalyn Andrews and Christian Baxter Mott (also '90s kids) take a nostalgic look at the grittier side of the children's entertainment that ruled our adolescence and moulded our generation. Our show features every-other-weekly discussions ranging from movie nights and season-long binges, to spooky specials of shows and other traumas... (ahem, memories). So, grab your flashlights and join us a ...
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Backlot kitties, Gene Kelly, and studio-executive dysfunction… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these ‘90s kids as they swing into the 1930s (by way of 1997) to understand the storied studio history and production lore that brought this musical mainstay into existence. Learn with them how, while times at Turner Feature Animation were to…
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Dreamland predators, great expectations, and the rise and fall of the Nightmare King… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these punch-drunk ‘90s kids as they wrap up their journey into Slumberland/Nightmareland and the revolving door of creatives involved in its production throughout the 1980s – including the famed Sherman Brothers. From t…
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Quiet On Set, flashy circus ads, and the dark side of animation history… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these ‘90s kids as they confront some harsh realities and trace the origins of one of their most requested Movie Nights back through the late 19th and early 20th centuries via its creator – the dream-obsessed (and problematic) Winso…
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Mummified curses, the infamous Big Toe bandit, and lessons in Egyptology… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these ‘90s kids as they seek to “return the slab” by unpacking some of Courage’s most talked-about and seemingly sinister segments. They’ll dive into ancient omens and confounding cases that brought Egyptian history to the Western …
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Grabby shadows, psychic hotline hi-jinx, and emotional alien encounters… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these ‘90s kids in the land of Nowhere once again as they traipse through extra-terrestrial lore surrounding tractor beams and alien abDUCKtions, enjoy television psychic tropes, and explore the anti-hero elements present in so many…
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Narcissistic ne’er-do-wells, supposed Southern expressions, and makeshift northern lights… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Join these ‘90s kids for the final leg of their Balto-thon where they trek through voice-cast trivia and unpack every ounce of jaw-dropping peril, malignant personality disorders, and innocuous innuendo that made Balto …
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Spielberg surreality, old-Hollywood caricatures, and blatantly honest lies… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Come along as these ‘90s kids get within one degree of Kevin Bacon by hanging with two of the legendary writers behind Balto (and a dozen other mind-blowing millennial favorites). Hear their origin stories, explore their shiniest memo…
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Questionable motives, an early American media frenzy, and Governor Bone… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Returning from an unexpected hiatus, these ‘90s kids are eager to get back in your ears recounting the true-life tale that served as inspiration behind Balto, the heroic 1925 Serum Run of Nome. Prepare your warmest blankets as they begin…
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Hiatus explanations, a holiday recap, and some watch recommendations… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark as the sun sets on 2023! As has become tradition, join your 90’s kid Ghost Hosts around the proverbial campfire to unpack where they’ve been this holiday season, discuss plans for 2024, and remind you how not-alone you are. Have a frightfull…
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Haunting core memories, the limitations of primordial kool-aid, and that big Halloween dance in the sky… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Reaching the finish line in this Halloween season, these ‘90s kids reminisce on the plot of Casper with all of its perfect '90s charm, lament the need for their own Up-And-At-‘Em machine, and, inevitably, …
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Slapstick spookiness, Spielberg’s dualistic vision, and the earliest iterations of the friendliest ghost… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Leading into another glorious Halloween, these ‘90s kids introduce Casper – a Pretty Dark icon – to the podcast and provide a timeline of his 80+ years of friendly haunting, then go behind the scenes to u…
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Schoolyard superstitions, problematic fifth graders, and the luckiest unluckiest day of them all… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! On this special, spooky October Friday the 13th, these ‘90s kids take on a classic Nickelodeon episode and immerse themselves in the ancient (and not so ancient) origins of alllll of the superstitions you know an…
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Classic horror nods, looping big-screen / reality parallels, and the monster inside us all… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! For their SECOND podcast-iversary, these ‘90s kids explore the production story behind the heart-stopping, groundbreaking cultural phenomenon that is Thriller, discuss some deeper themes and potential misgivings from M…
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Ancient werewolf lore, Sisyphean games of Whack-A-Mole, and the unfortunate reality of generational curses… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Continuing their Courage binge, these ‘90s kids learn the origin of the ol’ “hair of the dog” cure, brush up on their understanding of lycanthropy, and tip-toe toward the emotional horrors that made Eus…
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Mirrored realities, Milk-Carton-worthy disappearances, and portals to dimensions unknown… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In their conclusion of this messy movie night, these ‘90s kids explore the labyrinth of connections between the novel and the film, get into the nitty gritty of some of the biggest horror conventions and jump scares, and…
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Birthday woes, divergent visions, and a whole lot of horror clichés… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In Part 1 of a somewhat obscure movie night, these ‘90s kids boldly aim their flashlights at Disney’s buried young-adult-horror blunder that ushered in the '80s, gear up to better understand its many fabled AND released endings, and most of …
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Fatal fumes, living funerals, and PEAK childhood separation anxiety… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this week’s movie night, these ‘90s kids immerse themselves in animated existentialism, ponder the ripple effects of littering on the highway, and of course, unpack THAT infamously tragic toxic gas scene. Have a frightfully nostalgic memo…
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Exorcist epiphanies, rhyming inner-monologues, and a predisposition to be…naughty… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In their most popular Courage venture to date, these ‘90s kids whip out some 1970s horror comparisons, remind their dear Darklings that personal autonomy and emotional safety trump the social norms of hospitality, and attempt t…
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Experimental institutes, childhood hyper-vigilance, and an amorphous Nowherian mob… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Getting back to their Cartoon Network fixation, these ‘90s kids explore the origins of Bigfoot and his surprisingly heartwarming presence in Nowhere, remember an America that left pies cooling in their windowsills, and get spo…
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Camp-y summertime tropes, tales of a reformed tomboy, and a plunger-wielding dream stalker… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In response to serious Darkling demand, these ‘90s kids rewind back to Nickelodeon’s heyday to revisit the gruesome legend of Zeke the Plumber from Salute Your Shorts, confront toxic truths from Kalyn’s girlhood, and e…
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Sleep paralysis demons, snake oil salesmen, and one shadow’s dreams of show business… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Jumping back into their Season Binge, these ‘90s kids spend some time learning terrifying lore about shadow people, confront the reality that not all medical practitioners can deliver on their promises, and relive many of th…
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Nervous appliance breakdowns, Peter Lorre impersonations, and the legend of Narcissus… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Wrapping up their most requested Movie Night with a DOOZY of an episode, these ‘90s kids pay tribute to the talented voice cast, rant about planned obsolescence, and find answers to their generation’s lingering questions ab…
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The intersection of sci-fi and poetry, storied CalArts secrets, and palpable existential dread… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In their most requested Movie Night yet, these ‘90s kids begin to confront their own repressed memories of Sundance’s first animated film as they learn its harrowing production story, unpack its notorious ties to D…
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Zeitgeist contributions, fan theories answered, and a love letter to the horror genre… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! To wrap up an exciting hangout, these ‘90s kids continue to gush about fiction with their favorite Courage the Cowardly Dog alums - head writer David Steven Cohen and co-composer Jody Gray. In this installment, they learn w…
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Lyrical lifestyles, spooky synchronicity, and the importance of creative collaboration… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In their first ever hangout episode, these ‘90s kids wax poetic with two Courage the Cowardly Dog alums—head writer David Steven Cohen and co-composer Jody Gray. Join them as they reminisce on behind-the-scenes memories, s…
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Criminal underworlds, tales of a tomboy, and Disney villain violence… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Continuing their discussion on this shining gem from Disney’s dark age, these ‘90s kids learn way more about the mob than they expected, bemoan wealth inequality, psychoanalyze some of the era’s most memorable characters, and revisit the em…
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Dickensian sentiments, carefree ne’er-do-wells, and sparkly '80s songs... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Diving headfirst into the notorious Disney Dark Ages, these ‘90s kids tell the production story behind this surprisingly dark adaptation, seek to understand the years just before Disney’s fated Renaissance, and ponder how it always mana…
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A smooth talking cat, Loony Tune-y antics, and some Psycho parallels... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In the first episode of this much anticipated Season Binge of everyone’s favorite cowardly dog, these ‘90s kids leave no vacancies as they refresh our collective core memories of two iconic Courage villains, and appreciate the blend of cl…
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Inappropriate headstones, murder ballads, and schoolyard sexism... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Returning to the familiar urban legends of Hey Arnold!, these ‘90s kids seek to dig up and understand the chilling lore that potentially inspired one of the darkest episodes of millennial television. Join them as they hack away at their own ig…
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Eccentric ideals, fan theories, and lessons in emotional intelligence... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! As a preamble to their upcoming season binge, these ‘90s kids dip their toes into the mature, macabre, and downright depression-era themes found within the fabric of John Dilworth's slanted stories. Designed to subvert expectations both …
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Laugh attacks, infected eggs, and some otherworldly dilly-dallying... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In preparation for a much anticipated Season Binge, these ‘90s kids pull back the curtain on one of the darkest shows in millennial memory by exploring the history of Cartoon Network (plus it’s philosophy compared to Nickelodeon’s), the pse…
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Infinite guilt trips, innocence lost, and a donkey trafficking scheme... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In their first episode of 2023, these ‘90s kids close the book on pop culture’s most renowned puppet (through both the novel and the Disney film), explore the social and political context from which the original story emerged, and follow…
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Listener questions, recapping some favorites, and pranks that got too real… Oh lawd, it’s about to get pretty dark as the sun sets on 2022! Gather ‘round the campfire with these ‘90s kids for an unscripted, barely filtered chat about life in 2022 and where things are headed (with the show and with their mental health) in 2023. Here’s wishing you an…
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Ghostly crickets, the first ever villain song, and a serial that scarred a generation... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! Continuing their holiday tradition of honoring far-too-lifelike toys, these ‘90s kids return to the foundations of children’s entertainment with one of Disney’s most beloved (and most harrowing) tales, compare and contras…
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Video game vocabulary, now-defunct shopping malls, and the nefarious nature of pinball... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In the finale of their first Season Binge, these ‘90s kids set out to save the princess, best the baddies, and explore other gaming tropes that have encoded themselves into the millennial mind. Insert your coins here and…
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Emotional radios, “Brain Draining” powers, and a spectacular circus of fear... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this Thanksgiving weekend tribute, these ‘90s kids “roll back the rock” of this dinosaur story and time travel with a wish-granting ship captain, learn some lessons from the far future, and explore the psyche of a misunderstood …
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Prom night perils, graveyard goofs, and vanishing hitchhikers... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this triumphant return to their Season Binge, these 1990s kids catch a classic 1950s vibe, learn a thing or two about Resurrection Mary, and wax poetic about some of the world’s most enduring urban legends and ghost stories. Have a frightfull…
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Black flame candles, witchy revelations, and debates about virginity... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this special Halloween episode, these ‘90s kids dive headfirst into the plot, characters, and maybe-too-mature themes found in one of the most quintessential ‘90s Halloween films: Hocus Pocus. Nostalgic reflections, newly uncovered tri…
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Production stories, talking cats, and witchcraft accusations... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this special Halloween episode, these ‘90s kids introduce the pop culture phenomenon that is Hocus Pocus. Join in as they learn more about the talented team behind the film and how these spooky folks breathed life into many of our core millenn…
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Hell Houses, vandalism, and true crime: candy edition... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In the grand finale of their Halloween History, these ‘90s kids finally merge the storied Halloween timeline into their own, air grievances about certain haunted attractions, and fact-check Mandela Effect memories regarding candy tampering. Come along a…
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Jack-O’-Lanterns, soul cakes, and devilish fortune-telling rituals... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In Part II of this Halloween history lesson, these ‘90s kids find the origins of some classic Halloween traditions, follow the Church's influence on Samhain (and vice versa) through the Middle Ages, and learn about the hallowed and romantic…
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Celtic mythology, ritualistic bone-fires, and... Julius Caesar??? Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In celebration of ONE YEAR of That’s Pretty Dark, and the official beginning of ~spooky season~, these ‘90s kids begin their Halloween deep dive with an exploration of the facts (and myths) surrounding the earliest recorded Samhain celebrations…
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Household gods, musical sacrifices, and the worst little sister ever... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this episode, these '90s kids theorize about the origins of the infamous AYAOTD basement creature while also unpacking the emotional trauma and toxic masculinity hiding within one of the Midnight Society’s most popular tales. Have a fr…
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Remixed Irish folklore, theater magic, and a chain of toad children... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this episode, these '90s kids ride the Season Binge wave all the way to Ireland where they dissect the Midnight Society’s interpretation of Irish tales gone by and attempt to add in their own modern pop culture flare (okay, mostly Kalyn…
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Liminal spaces, 1950s urban legends, and harmonica blues... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this episode, these '90s kids revisit one of the most memorable Hey Arnold! episodes of all time, explore some real-life ghost train lore, and dive in to the in-between spaces (urban and otherwise) where ghosts and legends tend to gather. Have a f…
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Cultish behavior, Mesopotamian myths, and high school chemistry... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! In this episode, these '90s kids cozy back up to the Midnight Society campfire where they “dig up” the mysterious real-world history, botany, and literature buried in this “decades long” narrative. Have a frightfully nostalgic memory to share …
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Masquerading goblins, fantastical effects, and a junkyard of memories... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! These '90s kids wind their way through a Labyrinth series conclusion with an examination of the creepy chemistry between teenage Sarah and David Bowie’s alluring Goblin King, as well as the film’s surprisingly poignant reflections on lea…
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Goblin lore, ‘80s synth, and otherworldly packages... Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! These '90s kids warm up their two-part Labyrinth series with a look back at the extravagant puppets, memorable wordplay, and brilliant minds that brought this dark fantasy to life at the “thirteenth” hour - including Jim Henson and David Bowie. Have a frig…
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Blood curdling history, xenophobia, and disturbing suburbia… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! These ‘90s kids kick back for a Season Binge episode to explore the mysteries of suburban living, dig up some undying lore, and see how many vampire puns they can fit in your ears. Have a frightfully nostalgic memory to share or a pretty dark topic …
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Rapping test-subjects, slippery villains, and the delicate balance of creation and destruction… Oh lawd, it's about to get pretty dark! These ‘90s kids FINALLY explore the magical land of FernGully, dissect the inspiration and terror that Hexxus and Batty brought to a generation, and get a solemn reminder: the worst “evils” are always strengthened …
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