288. Arabs vs Jews? Maybe Not | Ambassador Ron Dermer

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The numerous heated and hotly debated conflicts surrounding Israel are almost always threatening to boil over and cast the Middle East into unceremonious chaos. Ambassador Ron Dermer sits down with Dr Jordan B Peterson to discuss the issues, the misnomers, and the underlying truths surrounding one of the most resilient peoples and countries in history.

Ron Dermer is an American-born political consultant who served as Israel’s Ambassador to the United States from 2013 to 2021. As Prime Minister Netanyahu’s top advisor, Dermer was a driving force behind many of the era’s most important diplomatic developments, such as the monumental Abraham Accords, which normalized Israel’s relations with several Arab nations.

Dermer earned a degree in Finance and Management from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania and a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) from Oxford University. After moving to Israel, Dermer became a columnist for The Jerusalem Post and served as a close advisor to Natan Sharansky. In 2004, he co-authored with Sharansky the best-selling book, “The Case For Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror,” which has been translated into ten languages.


For Ambassador Ron Dermer:

The Reform Islam Needs - https://www.city-journal.org/html/reform-islam-needs-12374.html

Proud to Have Been an American - https://www.nysun.com/article/opinion-proud-to-have-been-an-american

John Kerry is Wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=I_m1QlPxQ88

Ron Dermers Podcast, “Diplomatically Incorrect”- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/diplomatically-incorrect-with-ambassador-ron-dermer/id1616923197?uo=4


(0:00) Coming Up

(1:02) Intro

(5:00) The Abraham Accords, Timeline of the Gulf

(14:00) The 200 Pound Gorilla, Israel

(18:15) Conflicting Goals

(21:33) Saudi Arabia Moving Toward Peace?

(26:21) Why do we reduce the complexities of the Middle East to a single conflict?

(32:00) Shocked by the Numbers, Burundi

(44:00) President Trump and the Middle East

(50:09) A Bit Too Convenient

(53:12) Israel’s Right to Exist

(1:00:23) Denying History, Crossing the Rubicon

(1:10:43) Modernity VS. Medievalism

(1:23:20) US Foreign Policy

(1:32:47) How President Biden Can Win the Nobel Peace Prize


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